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AMD sells a 6 W Ryzen part that come with 2 10 GbE ports and a GPU. I believe these are 14 nm parts...likely the 7 nm parts will have 50-100% better perf/W. ht

by phonon 6y ago

AMD sells a 6 W Ryzen part that come with 2 10 GbE ports and a GPU. I believe these are 14 nm parts...likely the 7 nm parts will have 50-100% better perf/W. https://www.anandtech.com/show/15554/amd-launches-ultralowpower-ryzen-embedded-apus-starting-at-6w https://www.anandtech.com/show/15554/amd-launches-ultralowpo...

pdimitar 6y ago
I have searched high and low everywhere on the most popular outlets that I could and I never found one of these with the dual 10GbE NICs. If you go to AMD's website that advertises machines made with these boards, _all_ vendors backtracked on dual 10GbE and reverted to dual 1GbE for reasons that none of them explain. If you can point me at a store that actually sells a mini PC, say based on R1606G, _and_ it having dual 10GbE NICs then I'd be ecstatic. :)
- wahern 6y ago
  EPYC chips also come with integrated ethernet, but I don't think any vendors make use of that, either, not even the EPYC Embedded (3000-series). My Supermicro M11SDV-8CT-LN4F with an EPYC 3201 has 4x1Gbps Intel ports (+1x1Gbps Realtek for IPMI) even though the chip provides 4x10Gbps ports. I've read the issue is that motherboard designers can't be bothered to redesign around the integrated controller; easier to just continue slapping Intel or Realtek controllers on the board. That seems to be a big hurdle for AMD--they don't have enough volume to motivate much of the industry to make the best of what AMD offers. And when it does happen, there's a much longer lag time.
  - pdimitar 6y ago
    Pretty good explanation. Thank you. It's a real shame. The R1606G can go at 25-35W and it would practically be the most economic I/O heavy server design in history but as you said, the vendors can't be bothered. :(
  - formerly_proven 6y ago
    Making use of the NIC/MACs in the CPU would require board makers to buy PHYs, which would be only used by AMD boards, or they could not do that and slap the same PCIe NICs on there as they do on all other boards.

by phonon 6y ago

pdimitar 6y ago

I have searched high and low everywhere on the most popular outlets that I could and I never found one of these with the dual 10GbE NICs. If you go to AMD's website that advertises machines made with these boards, _all_ vendors backtracked on dual 10GbE and reverted to dual 1GbE for reasons that none of them explain. If you can point me at a store that actually sells a mini PC, say based on R1606G, _and_ it having dual 10GbE NICs then I'd be ecstatic. :)

wahern 6y ago
EPYC chips also come with integrated ethernet, but I don't think any vendors make use of that, either, not even the EPYC Embedded (3000-series). My Supermicro M11SDV-8CT-LN4F with an EPYC 3201 has 4x1Gbps Intel ports (+1x1Gbps Realtek for IPMI) even though the chip provides 4x10Gbps ports. I've read the issue is that motherboard designers can't be bothered to redesign around the integrated controller; easier to just continue slapping Intel or Realtek controllers on the board. That seems to be a big hurdle for AMD--they don't have enough volume to motivate much of the industry to make the best of what AMD offers. And when it does happen, there's a much longer lag time.
- pdimitar 6y ago
  Pretty good explanation. Thank you. It's a real shame. The R1606G can go at 25-35W and it would practically be the most economic I/O heavy server design in history but as you said, the vendors can't be bothered. :(
- formerly_proven 6y ago
  Making use of the NIC/MACs in the CPU would require board makers to buy PHYs, which would be only used by AMD boards, or they could not do that and slap the same PCIe NICs on there as they do on all other boards.