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Because this post is about discussing the environmental impact of Apple's products. If someone wants to talk about the concentration camps, they can do it on an

by dx87 6y ago

Because this post is about discussing the environmental impact of Apple's products. If someone wants to talk about the concentration camps, they can do it on any of the other billion posts that are specifically discussing it.

DeusExMachina 6y ago
I don't think there is any rule stating that HN discussion need to stay precisely on the topic of the article discussed. In fact, there are many about topics just tangential to the main one.
- dx87 6y ago
  > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That destroys the curiosity this site exists for. Unless Apple products are being made in the concentration camps, it's not even close to tangential to the topic of environmental sustainability of Apple's supply chain. It's just trying to derail the discussion by bringing up political issues.
  - kop316 6y ago
    I'm pretty sure that's exactly the claims being made here: https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2020/0305/Are-forced-labor-Uyghurs-making-Apple-and-Samsung-phones https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2020/0305/Are-forced-labor-U... https://qz.com/1811305/nike-apple-linked-to-forced-uighur-labor-in-china-report-says/ https://qz.com/1811305/nike-apple-linked-to-forced-uighur-la... https://www.newsweek.com/religious-freedom-watchdog-amazon-nike-apple-uighur-muslims-china-forced-labor-1492240 https://www.newsweek.com/religious-freedom-watchdog-amazon-n...
afandian 6y ago
I don't agree. Both captive / slave labour and environmentally harmful manufacturing are par for the course in the modern economy, completely unconscionable to a large number of people, but apparently very difficult to escape. Seems highly relevant.
- dx87 6y ago
  This post isn't about the modern economy, it's about what Apple is planning to do in order to reduce their carbon footprint. Using your logic, for-profit prisons are relevant to this post since Apple is located in America.

by dx87 6y ago

DeusExMachina 6y ago

I don't think there is any rule stating that HN discussion need to stay precisely on the topic of the article discussed. In fact, there are many about topics just tangential to the main one.

dx87 6y ago
> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That destroys the curiosity this site exists for. Unless Apple products are being made in the concentration camps, it's not even close to tangential to the topic of environmental sustainability of Apple's supply chain. It's just trying to derail the discussion by bringing up political issues.
- kop316 6y ago
  I'm pretty sure that's exactly the claims being made here: https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2020/0305/Are-forced-labor-Uyghurs-making-Apple-and-Samsung-phones https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2020/0305/Are-forced-labor-U... https://qz.com/1811305/nike-apple-linked-to-forced-uighur-labor-in-china-report-says/ https://qz.com/1811305/nike-apple-linked-to-forced-uighur-la... https://www.newsweek.com/religious-freedom-watchdog-amazon-nike-apple-uighur-muslims-china-forced-labor-1492240 https://www.newsweek.com/religious-freedom-watchdog-amazon-n...

afandian 6y ago

I don't agree. Both captive / slave labour and environmentally harmful manufacturing are par for the course in the modern economy, completely unconscionable to a large number of people, but apparently very difficult to escape. Seems highly relevant.

dx87 6y ago
This post isn't about the modern economy, it's about what Apple is planning to do in order to reduce their carbon footprint. Using your logic, for-profit prisons are relevant to this post since Apple is located in America.