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Fun gimmick, but nothing more.

by dbbk 6y ago

andreaorru 6y ago
For now... :)
- lostmsu 6y ago
  I did not see your comment was a reply on another comment, and thought it referred to the post title. :-D
  - warranty 6y ago
    That could very well be the reality. Everyday more people are training this thing on god knows what tasks.
aerovistae 6y ago
This comment seems short-sighted. Code that can generate a working set of interlinked page elements from natural English? How on earth is that a gimmick? This is incredible. This is the Pong to the Crysis of 25 years from now, when we can describe entire applications into existence. I can't fathom the mindset that dismisses this as a gimmick. Is the first step on every journey meaningless? And this isn't even the first step-- this is miles in!
- emsy 6y ago
  Predicting the future of one technology from the development of another technology doesn’t make much sense imo. Where are our fusion reactors and flying cars ;-)?
- otabdeveloper4 6y ago
  It's only a tiny step above searching Github and copy-pasting. Searching and copy-pasting isn't the hard part of software development. Guaranteeing validity, safety and performance is the hard part. This doesn't get us any closer to the goal. (In fact it's the opposite, a big step back.)
  - aerovistae 6y ago
    This is something nobody's ever done before, and which nobody could have done before. How can you dismiss it so easily? If this is a step back, what does a step forward even look like? Generating code with guaranteed validity, safety, and performance are worthy goals, but how can you work on them without having an AI that can generate any code in the first place? I'm just endlessly confused by this mindset. If you wanted a palace and someone built you the foundation, would you deride it as being nothing like a palace and in fact a step AWAY from a palace?
    - danShumway 6y ago
      > If you wanted a palace and someone built you the foundation, would you deride it as being nothing like a palace and in fact a step AWAY from a palace? Depends on whether it's actually possible to build a palace on top of the foundation. If I know the foundation is going to crumble under the extra weight of the walls, then yes, it's a step backwards. This is a fantastic achievement, and I think people who are saying it's nothing new are kind of being obstinate. But there is real debate over whether GPT is a foundation we can build on. It's not as simple as just saying, "generate the code, and then we'll come up with ways to make sure the code is correct." Fundamentally, that might require us to generate the code differently than GPT does. GPT's foundation might crumble under the weight when we try to put walls on top of it. This is particularly worrisome with GPT because it's still a very active area of research, so we don't know for sure that GPT's weaknesses aren't intrinsic to its design. We could end up devoting a ton of time to pushing GPT to its limits only to find out that the entire process has to be scrapped and that we'll need to start over from the beginning. I think people have a tendency to see something new and either only see the capabilities or only see the weaknesses. There's been some really startlingly impressive things coming out of GPT-3, in particular the 'infinite' text adventure someone posted a while ago. But all of those projects have also had substantial weaknesses, and the weaknesses are forming a pattern across all of the projects. There are certain tendencies that GPT seems to universally have around recycling content, going off on weird asides -- stuff that should have proponents at least slightly worried, even while they rightly praise its advances.
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haltingproblem 6y ago
It looks like a gimmick but it certainly is not. This is a highly underrated demo. GPT3 incorporated into IDEs can provide a productivity boost. Imagine this coupled with a testing framework. I would not trust a GPT3 produced code base, after it does not "understand" what it is doing but if it passes all tests, I might be able to. Would you?

Fun gimmick, but nothing more.

by dbbk 6y ago

Fun gimmick, but nothing more.

andreaorru 6y ago

For now... :)

lostmsu 6y ago
I did not see your comment was a reply on another comment, and thought it referred to the post title. :-D
- warranty 6y ago
  That could very well be the reality. Everyday more people are training this thing on god knows what tasks.

aerovistae 6y ago

This comment seems short-sighted. Code that can generate a working set of interlinked page elements from natural English? How on earth is that a gimmick? This is incredible. This is the Pong to the Crysis of 25 years from now, when we can describe entire applications into existence. I can't fathom the mindset that dismisses this as a gimmick. Is the first step on every journey meaningless? And this isn't even the first step-- this is miles in!

emsy 6y ago
Predicting the future of one technology from the development of another technology doesn’t make much sense imo. Where are our fusion reactors and flying cars ;-)?
otabdeveloper4 6y ago
It's only a tiny step above searching Github and copy-pasting. Searching and copy-pasting isn't the hard part of software development. Guaranteeing validity, safety and performance is the hard part. This doesn't get us any closer to the goal. (In fact it's the opposite, a big step back.)
- aerovistae 6y ago
  This is something nobody's ever done before, and which nobody could have done before. How can you dismiss it so easily? If this is a step back, what does a step forward even look like? Generating code with guaranteed validity, safety, and performance are worthy goals, but how can you work on them without having an AI that can generate any code in the first place? I'm just endlessly confused by this mindset. If you wanted a palace and someone built you the foundation, would you deride it as being nothing like a palace and in fact a step AWAY from a palace?
  - danShumway 6y ago
    > If you wanted a palace and someone built you the foundation, would you deride it as being nothing like a palace and in fact a step AWAY from a palace? Depends on whether it's actually possible to build a palace on top of the foundation. If I know the foundation is going to crumble under the extra weight of the walls, then yes, it's a step backwards. This is a fantastic achievement, and I think people who are saying it's nothing new are kind of being obstinate. But there is real debate over whether GPT is a foundation we can build on. It's not as simple as just saying, "generate the code, and then we'll come up with ways to make sure the code is correct." Fundamentally, that might require us to generate the code differently than GPT does. GPT's foundation might crumble under the weight when we try to put walls on top of it. This is particularly worrisome with GPT because it's still a very active area of research, so we don't know for sure that GPT's weaknesses aren't intrinsic to its design. We could end up devoting a ton of time to pushing GPT to its limits only to find out that the entire process has to be scrapped and that we'll need to start over from the beginning. I think people have a tendency to see something new and either only see the capabilities or only see the weaknesses. There's been some really startlingly impressive things coming out of GPT-3, in particular the 'infinite' text adventure someone posted a while ago. But all of those projects have also had substantial weaknesses, and the weaknesses are forming a pattern across all of the projects. There are certain tendencies that GPT seems to universally have around recycling content, going off on weird asides -- stuff that should have proponents at least slightly worried, even while they rightly praise its advances.
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haltingproblem 6y ago

It looks like a gimmick but it certainly is not. This is a highly underrated demo. GPT3 incorporated into IDEs can provide a productivity boost. Imagine this coupled with a testing framework. I would not trust a GPT3 produced code base, after it does not "understand" what it is doing but if it passes all tests, I might be able to. Would you?