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"Today friends, I have great pride in announcing that Jio has designed and developed a complete 5G solution from scratch. This will enable us to launch a world-

"Today friends, I have great pride in announcing that Jio has designed and developed a complete 5G solution from scratch. This will enable us to launch a world-class 5G service in India using 100% homegrown technology and solution. " Wow, that's amazing. Maybe the US and the UK can also import this 5G tech in our networks? I'm getting tired of ATT's fake 5GE.

wadkar 6y ago
I would wait until they get field trials and do a launch in India (which is what Jio plans anyways). I think if they can do it at India scale and complexity - they can pretty much do it anywhere in the world. India scale is obvious - large geography and relatively dense population. Complexity because of unreliability of basic infrastructure (like guaranteed power supply, people digging over your network pipeline etc.) I am usually a skeptic when it comes to claims made by companies in the Indian context, for example, my Jio connection is spotty at best in tier 2 city and very much a PITA if I go in the rural areas where the state owned BSNL is still the winner.
sbierwagen 6y ago
India doesn't have any semiconductor fabs. If they're not making it in-country, I can't see how it's "homegrown technology".
- unmole 6y ago
  Ever seen "Designed by Apple in California. Made in China."?
  - sbierwagen 6y ago
    Did Steve Jobs ever say the iPhone is "100% homegrown technology and solution"?
econcon 6y ago
Obviously he misled people. His firm can deploy cloud native soft infrastructure and data centers for 5G but not the hardware. And here too they are any special as Rukuten already does it. They still have the license technology from the vendors even if they manufacture it on their own. And why will vendor license it to them, and if they'll have to - they'll do so at the same profit margin which they'd make from direct selling of the hardware. Where are 5g hardware patents which Jio owns?
- naruvimama 6y ago
  That perplexed me too. There are other possibilities though Completely different standards that can compete with 5G, improbable but there have been alternate projects that have been worked on in the past that never made it to the standards. SDR except the MINO antennas. Jio isn't entirely new as a pioneer in teleco, and their pockets are big enough to bring in talent or buy companies. I am hoping for the best. When you want your IP to be part of the standard that you want to push to the entire world, there must be some limitations on your IP. Limited period, open licensing terms and reasonable price. Otherwise, there is nothing stopping a government from declaring the patent invalid or bring in anti-competitive laws.
- ravirdv 6y ago
  They did acquire Radisys couple of years back, may be something to do with that. https://www.zdnet.com/article/reliance-acquires-radisys-for-5g-and-iot/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/reliance-acquires-radisys-for-...

wadkar 6y ago

I would wait until they get field trials and do a launch in India (which is what Jio plans anyways). I think if they can do it at India scale and complexity - they can pretty much do it anywhere in the world. India scale is obvious - large geography and relatively dense population. Complexity because of unreliability of basic infrastructure (like guaranteed power supply, people digging over your network pipeline etc.) I am usually a skeptic when it comes to claims made by companies in the Indian context, for example, my Jio connection is spotty at best in tier 2 city and very much a PITA if I go in the rural areas where the state owned BSNL is still the winner.

sbierwagen 6y ago

India doesn't have any semiconductor fabs. If they're not making it in-country, I can't see how it's "homegrown technology".

unmole 6y ago
Ever seen "Designed by Apple in California. Made in China."?
- sbierwagen 6y ago
  Did Steve Jobs ever say the iPhone is "100% homegrown technology and solution"?

econcon 6y ago

Obviously he misled people. His firm can deploy cloud native soft infrastructure and data centers for 5G but not the hardware. And here too they are any special as Rukuten already does it. They still have the license technology from the vendors even if they manufacture it on their own. And why will vendor license it to them, and if they'll have to - they'll do so at the same profit margin which they'd make from direct selling of the hardware. Where are 5g hardware patents which Jio owns?

naruvimama 6y ago
That perplexed me too. There are other possibilities though Completely different standards that can compete with 5G, improbable but there have been alternate projects that have been worked on in the past that never made it to the standards. SDR except the MINO antennas. Jio isn't entirely new as a pioneer in teleco, and their pockets are big enough to bring in talent or buy companies. I am hoping for the best. When you want your IP to be part of the standard that you want to push to the entire world, there must be some limitations on your IP. Limited period, open licensing terms and reasonable price. Otherwise, there is nothing stopping a government from declaring the patent invalid or bring in anti-competitive laws.
ravirdv 6y ago
They did acquire Radisys couple of years back, may be something to do with that. https://www.zdnet.com/article/reliance-acquires-radisys-for-5g-and-iot/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/reliance-acquires-radisys-for-...