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Which is aberrant, and is being denounced by political opposition and non-state-controlled media.
by unchocked 6y ago
Which is aberrant, and is being denounced by political opposition and non-state-controlled media.
- jhardy54 6y agoThat's great, but as a Portlander I'd prefer that it stopped happing. It seems that the feds are instead escalating further.
- plato_rx 6y agoOnce the violent rioters end their rioting the Feds will leave. Perhaps the rioters should just stop rioting?
- Pokepokalypse 6y agoEventually, they'll be going house-to-house.
- ergothus 6y agoHow many things have been aberrant and denounced, only to become the regrettable norm in the last few years? When I was a child, the US wouldn't open admit to torture. It didn't have publicly known programs to ship prisoners to other jurisdictions so the U.S. rules of conduct could be bypassed. It didn't have a (publicly known) prison filled with non-U.S. people that were denied a civil trial. It didn't have a president that actively preached for or against public companies outside of criminal matters. When I was a child, a president openly violating ethics concerns WAS a matter of that president getting removed - with such certainty they'd step down to avoid the inevitable result. I'm totally willing to believe that an aberrant behavior doesn't have to become the norm, but I won't believe that should be expected. I've been told all my life to expect that dramatic reactions and concerns are overstated and not the case, that we should all be calm and expect things to work out well, but if I look at the actual events of my life, I see the opposite lessons being taught: Unless we react strongly, clearly, and persistently, progress will not happen and things will slide for the worse. It's not the lesson I want to learn, it's not a lesson I am comfortable with, but it does appear to be what I've seen in the last few decades.
- refurb 6y agoGo back another 30 years and everything you mention was happening as well. JFK - lying about the missile gap with Russia to get elected Johnson - lying about his intentions in Vietnam Nixon - too many to list If anything, I'd say there is more transparency around unethical behavior by elected officials.
- ekianjo 6y ago> If anything, I'd say there is more transparency around unethical behavior by elected officials. Yes, and it's because there are more watchdogs and reporting than ever before, and "the internet does not forget"
- raverbashing 6y ago> I'd say there is more transparency around unethical behavior by elected officials. And politicians using inordinate behaviours as political currency and more people to condone the same absurdities
- ergothus 6y ago> I'd say there is more transparency around unethical behavior by elected officials And that's what worries me - note in my post above I was careful to talk about "public". Before there was a veil of deniability, the idea that at least a pretense of innocence had to be maintained. Now it feels like there is little care to hide it. Sure, many of us are outraged, but that outrage has done nothing to translate into stopping the actions.
- thereare5lights 6y agoWhich does nothing to stop it from happening
- aww_dang 6y agoState controlled media? VOA aside, which network(s) are you referring to here?
- Cthulhu_ 6y ago"denounced" is not good enough; this should make the government fall and trigger reelections, this should be the trigger that makes people exercise their 2nd amendment and form a militia for their own safety, because civilian are oppressed, murdered and abducted by the police and masked, unmarked militia. But no, let's focus on the Karens who claim oppression because they need to wear a mask in Walmart instead.
- aww_dang 6y agoInterestingly, another BLM (Bureau of Land Management) protest in Oregon did involve armed militia members and was widely denounced by partisans on the opposing spectrum. I recall the racially loaded term "Vanilla ISIS" being used.