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I can't shake the feeling of how ugly Rust code looks in comparison to Python, Clojure and Go.

by itwy 6y ago

untog 6y ago
A matter of perspective IMO. Before I learned Rust it looked messy but now that I know it I don’t think that at all. In fact the way you can use match statements and Result<T> structs make it quite beautiful to me.
gameswithgo 6y ago
as a fan of clojure you must be familiar with how people dismiss lisps because of the parens. some of the complexity of Rust is just necessary to get C speed with memory safety, some is just not being used to the “parens”
acheron9383 6y ago
Eh, eye of the beholder. The stronger type system and more verbose syntax certainly makes the code look different. In a way though, it makes the code much more readable. To pick on Python, the Rust code is a lot more _specific_ in what it is going to do, I like that when I am maintaining a code base, it is easier to work on and understand. They are also targeting totally different use cases, so I understand differences of opinion depending on what kind of problem you are trying to solve.
hombre_fatal 6y ago
I had the opposite opinion. It looks like the best mix of abstractions like first-class Result, Option, Future, and Trait with some of the best performance. In Go, I write twice as much code for code that's slower than Rust. I can't even reuse code without copy and paste. Python and Clojure don't even have Rust features. Python doesn't even have .map. Go is barely statically-typed (bet you're gonna use interface{} implementing this too), Python and Clojure aren't at all -- so that's also going to be a source of gut-reaction "whoa this must be complex". The code looks very pleasing to me.
kabacha 6y ago
As I python dev I feel kinda the opposite: rust is surprisingly pretty with the exception of massive overuse of shift key to the point where I'd consider it a health hazard. The only other low-level language that is pretty that I found is nim.
- wizzwizz4 6y ago
  Nim is nice. I Don't Like It™ because it compiles to C, instead of a True™ compiler intermediate representation, but it's a solid language.
- aldanor 6y ago
  Ditto, as a Python dev I find Rust a lot prettier. I've started using mypy in all Python projects, but it's a joke of course compared to proper strong typing.

I can't shake the feeling of how ugly Rust code looks in comparison to Python, Clojure and Go.

by itwy 6y ago

I can't shake the feeling of how ugly Rust code looks in comparison to Python, Clojure and Go.

A matter of perspective IMO. Before I learned Rust it looked messy but now that I know it I don’t think that at all. In fact the way you can use match statements and Result<T> structs make it quite beautiful to me.

gameswithgo 6y ago

as a fan of clojure you must be familiar with how people dismiss lisps because of the parens. some of the complexity of Rust is just necessary to get C speed with memory safety, some is just not being used to the “parens”

acheron9383 6y ago

Eh, eye of the beholder. The stronger type system and more verbose syntax certainly makes the code look different. In a way though, it makes the code much more readable. To pick on Python, the Rust code is a lot more _specific_ in what it is going to do, I like that when I am maintaining a code base, it is easier to work on and understand. They are also targeting totally different use cases, so I understand differences of opinion depending on what kind of problem you are trying to solve.

hombre_fatal 6y ago

I had the opposite opinion. It looks like the best mix of abstractions like first-class Result, Option, Future, and Trait with some of the best performance. In Go, I write twice as much code for code that's slower than Rust. I can't even reuse code without copy and paste. Python and Clojure don't even have Rust features. Python doesn't even have .map. Go is barely statically-typed (bet you're gonna use interface{} implementing this too), Python and Clojure aren't at all -- so that's also going to be a source of gut-reaction "whoa this must be complex". The code looks very pleasing to me.

kabacha 6y ago

As I python dev I feel kinda the opposite: rust is surprisingly pretty with the exception of massive overuse of shift key to the point where I'd consider it a health hazard. The only other low-level language that is pretty that I found is nim.

wizzwizz4 6y ago
Nim is nice. I Don't Like It™ because it compiles to C, instead of a True™ compiler intermediate representation, but it's a solid language.
aldanor 6y ago
Ditto, as a Python dev I find Rust a lot prettier. I've started using mypy in all Python projects, but it's a joke of course compared to proper strong typing.