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Highly automated digital audio workstation extensible in Guile
- majkinetor 6y agoFYI: Build and run it free, or pay for installer and to support development.
- slezyr 6y agoSame as with XChat, Ardour. I wounder, how they look at the packages from the distros?
- Shared404 6y agoSame with modern ZynAddSubFX. I personally have no issues with this model, I'd rather pay for libre software then equivalent proprietary. That being said, if I were to try using this I would probably build it.
- memming 6y agoKorean developers? UK currency?
- slezyr 6y ago> Zrythm and the Zrythm logo are trademarks of Alexandros Theodotou. See our Trademark Policy for more information. > Alexandros Theodotou > I am a native-level English and Greek speaker born in Cyprus, currently based in the UK. Where did Korean developers came from?
- jabbany 6y agoThey just have a very (over)zealous locale detection system that tries to show you a language localized page based on your browser's language priority.
- ThePadawan 6y agoI can however second parent's astonishment. I'm located in Switzerland, with language preferences for en_EN, de_DE and de_CH, but was redirected by 301 to /ja/ (the japanese language page). There's overzealous and then there's malfunctioning...
- memming 6y agoInteresting. I wonder what gave in my ability to recognize Korean characters.
- hellofunk 6y agoWhenever I see something like this, my first question is, wow what a beautiful cross-platform UI -- I wonder what they are using? It's amazing how challenging it is in 2020 to have a simple path for creating a cross-platform UI that actually looks good and is not aimed at developers as users, but rather competes with the polish of established applications. Unless you go with Electron or pay thousands per year for a Qt license, options are quite limited.
- slezyr 6y agoGTK with many custom widgets.
- Nokinside 6y agoOr you pay noting and use QT.
- cies 6y agoDistros are filled with Qt based software that's FLOSS. Among them all of KDE.
- chrisseaton 6y agoI think they're using Gtk but they're basically using it just as a canvas to draw their own widgets.
- formerly_proven 6y agoContent production tools have fairly unique UI needs compared to the average desktop application, e.g. they often have very complex timeline controls that offer dozens if not hundreds of different interactions specific to the tool at hand. Generic UI libraries would only be a hindrance there. They almost never have enough screen space, so the widget/interaction density is far greater than what’d be ergonomic for standard apps. Since people spend considerable time learning these tools they generally have their own UI paradigms independent of the host OS, which is the opposite of what you‘d want in a crossplatform toolkit.
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- marcan_42 6y agoAddendum: since this is getting downvoted, probably because I didn't explain why this matters beyond philosophical arguments, read my reply down the thread for why the license means in practice I can't use this DAW as a live plug-in host (without a huge hassle). There's a practical concern for you. One that doesn't apply to most proprietary applications, it's very unique to the AGPL. This looks good, I've been making music with Ardour lately and this has a few features I wish Ardour did. But - too bad it's not free software. It's unfortunately licensed under an EULA, the GNU AGPLv3 - which, as much as the FSF would like you to believe otherwise, is not a Free Software license, as it violates Freedom 0, your right to use/run the software however you wish without conditions. The AGPL imposes requirements not only on people who distribute the software (like a simple copyright license, e.g. the GPLs, BSD, Apache, etc), but also on people who merely use it (it requires you to make the source code available to anyone who even uses the software indirectly, e.g. as a service). So I might use if it's good, but I won't be contributing patches to it, as I would with other software like Ardour, and I won't use it in a live setting. I can't in good conscience spend my free time contributing to software behind a EULA. (I haven't the foggiest clue why they picked this license either; its main purpose is to extend the GPL's virality to network services to the detriment of user freedom, but this isn't a network service.)
- coldtea 6y agoThis reads more like a general diatribe against AGPLv3 than a critique of the program. I don't like GPL licenses myself, I prefer BSD/MIT/etc. But that aside, this has very little to do with this program, and it very little (if any) impediment to using this kind of program. It might prevent a company from building a commercial closed source version (which is fine, we have plenty of commercial DAWs already), and it might prevent a company from somehow turning this into SaaS. Both of those seem like very remote and unlike possibilities, even if this was non GPLv3.
- marcan_42 6y agoIt's certainly a critique of the AGPL. I was just rather shocked to see the AGPL here, of all places. It doesn't make any sense, and it puts me off of considering it as a general free software DAW, and more in the same category as the proprietary plug-ins that I use (because there's no FOSS alternative). I'll use them, but not consider them a community project I can contribute to. It may not be obvious how the AGPL would impact your ability to use a DAW, but it does. Just two days ago I was at band practice with a band I play in, and we decided that for one song the guitarist, who didn't have a part on it, would play a synth running on my computer, via a MIDI keyboard. That's a computer network by most definitions. That means the guitarist is now a user of the software on my computer. I was using Carla (LGPLed) as a plug-in host, but had I been using this instead, I would've been obligated to inform him of the fact and offer the source code. In other words, this means I would never consider using this DAW in a live environment with any external interaction at all (no inputs other than my own, that includes no microphones or analog inputs that might pick up third party signals), lest I become legally obligated to start explaining what I'm running and where to get the source to everyone around me. Now I bet the authors of this software didn't think of such use cases and don't care about them - and this is why the AGPL is evil, because it encroaches on users' rights well beyond you might think at first glance.
- aasasd 6y ago> zrythm.org/RU not found Automagic redirect wasn't such a good idea here.
- mxmilkb 6y agoFor related chat; #zrythm #lad #lau #lv2 and #jack on freenode.
- grawprog 6y agoHas anyone actually tried this? Most of the comments seem to be about the licensing or the ui, i'm just curious how this holds up to ardour. This actually looks pretty awesome.
- pindab0ter 6y agoAs someone who recently spent a few weeks to get acquainted with Reaper, what would be a reason to use Ardour instead?
- puranjay 6y agoArdour is free and open source. You might also want to try LMMS. Pair it up with ZynAddSubFX as the synth and you have a pretty competent studio. Relevant submission: https://midination.com/free-music-production-software/ https://midination.com/free-music-production-software/
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- PaulDavisThe1st 6y agoLess ambiguous (in English) to use a loan-word and say "Ardour is libre and open source".
- Shared404 6y agoI would argue that it's not only ambiguous but harmful to use the word "free" to describe libre software at this point. So many people have "Free means it steals your data" beaten into their heads at this point. This is of course referring to the general population. I would assume that people on HN have no issues with Libre-Free vs Beer-Free.
- alchemyromcom 6y agoI believe Ardour has an open license and Reaper has a proprietary licence. In terms of functionality and ease of use however, I think Reaper is hard to beat.
- dmoreno 6y agoThe title says "extensible in Guile" which sounds great, but I don't see any mention in the article. Is there any resource about this Guile extensibility?
- coldpie 6y agohttps://manual.zrythm.org/en/scripting/intro.html https://manual.zrythm.org/en/scripting/intro.html
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