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The problem is customers choosing to put all their eggs in one basket. Until relatively recently absolutely none, and now almost none of the tooling allows eff

The problem is customers choosing to put all their eggs in one basket. Until relatively recently absolutely none, and now almost none of the tooling allows effective multi-cloud or hybrid cloud/private. Basically the cloud providers work very hard to prevent the commodification of their services with special incompatible service offerings, lock-in, interdependency, deep and opaque APIs for integration, and networks of training and certification that position change as a direct threat to people's job security. Cloud providers today are basically Microsoft in the 90s. Much as open source challenged Microsoft, I would say that the world now needs open infrastructure tooling that positions hybrid and multi-cloud as first class infrastructure architectural cases in order to displace established cloud provider hegemony. Even then we will have to fight the hardware and real estate economies of scale available to large established cloud providers. I wrote some observations about this space based significantly on HN community comments prior to the rise of Docker a few years ago: http://stani.sh/walter/pfcts/ http://stani.sh/walter/pfcts/ ... click 'original' ... the conclusions still seem timely.

abtinf 6y ago
> Until relatively recently absolutely none, and now almost none of the tooling allows effective multi-cloud or hybrid cloud/private. Until relatively recently, the cloud didn't exist.
- contingencies 6y ago
  EC2 was launched in 2006. The notes I linked to date from 2014.
- icedchai 6y ago
  The cloud is marketing speak for what has been going on for decades. In the 70's, it was called time sharing.
- throw0101a 6y ago
  > Until relatively recently, the cloud didn't exist. Depends: > IBM and other mainframe providers conducted this kind of business in the following two decades [after 1961], often referred to as time-sharing, offering computing power and database storage to banks and other large organizations from their worldwide data centers. To facilitate this business model, mainframe operating systems evolved to include process control facilities, security, and user metering. […] > In 1998, HP set up the Utility Computing Division in Mountain View, CA, assigning former Bell Labs computer scientists to begin work on a computing power plant, incorporating multiple utilities to form a software stack. Services such as "IP billing-on-tap" were marketed. HP introduced the Utility Data Center in 2001. Sun announced the Sun Cloud service to consumers in 2000. […] > In spring 2006 3tera announced its AppLogic service and later that summer Amazon launched Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud). * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_computing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_computing

abtinf 6y ago

> Until relatively recently absolutely none, and now almost none of the tooling allows effective multi-cloud or hybrid cloud/private. Until relatively recently, the cloud didn't exist.

contingencies 6y ago
EC2 was launched in 2006. The notes I linked to date from 2014.
icedchai 6y ago
The cloud is marketing speak for what has been going on for decades. In the 70's, it was called time sharing.
throw0101a 6y ago
> Until relatively recently, the cloud didn't exist. Depends: > IBM and other mainframe providers conducted this kind of business in the following two decades [after 1961], often referred to as time-sharing, offering computing power and database storage to banks and other large organizations from their worldwide data centers. To facilitate this business model, mainframe operating systems evolved to include process control facilities, security, and user metering. […] > In 1998, HP set up the Utility Computing Division in Mountain View, CA, assigning former Bell Labs computer scientists to begin work on a computing power plant, incorporating multiple utilities to form a software stack. Services such as "IP billing-on-tap" were marketed. HP introduced the Utility Data Center in 2001. Sun announced the Sun Cloud service to consumers in 2000. […] > In spring 2006 3tera announced its AppLogic service and later that summer Amazon launched Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud). * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_computing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_computing