There is no way for me to tell if your espresso is good, or not. It might be good enough for you and for you that is great - but don't let your survivorship bia

There is no way for me to tell if your espresso is good, or not. It might be good enough for you and for you that is great - but don't let your survivorship bias be an argument for "it's easy anyone can do it." That was the point. > but: have you ever tried a manual machine yourself and got a decent espresso out of it? Oh I have. This is my manual, well, the older version: https://www.cerinicoffee.com/products/olympia-cremina-sl https://www.cerinicoffee.com/products/olympia-cremina-sl. I like to experiment a lot with it and have a pressure gauge attachment on the top. You can certainly get good espresso out of it - that isn't my point. my point is, it isn't as easy as people think - and you far overestimate based on hobbyists on coffee forums (of course they produce good shots, they're hobbyists) and people who just want coffee. > Only if you want it, which I don't. Well of course - but that is a downside that would turn off a lot of people.