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> Coronaviruses are very different. We've rarely had any this deadly before. SARS and MERS. > Keep in mind people who test positive but die of a car wreck are

> Coronaviruses are very different. We've rarely had any this deadly before. SARS and MERS. > Keep in mind people who test positive but die of a car wreck are counted as COVID19. I'd like to see evidence that this has happened, that's it's not some freak outlier, and that it has any meaningful impact on the reported death toll. Looking at excess mortality, it looks like deaths have been under-reported, if anything. It's getting tiresome to see people trotting out the anecdote about someone getting in a car wreck and being counted as a CoVID-19 death.

fiftyfifty 6y ago
> Keep in mind people who test positive but die of a car wreck are counted as COVID19. In Colorado there was lawsuit over this, because there was a case of a college age man dying of alcohol poisoning but he tested positive for Covid-19 so was counted as a Covid-19 death per CDC regulations. So the Colorado Health Department now tracks two numbers: people that died with Covid-19 and people that died because of Covid-19. As of right now the first is 1,752 deaths and the second is 1,615 deaths. Statistically it's not a huge difference, you can see the numbers here: https://covid19.colorado.gov/data/case-data https://covid19.colorado.gov/data/case-data
- xienze 6y ago
  > Statistically it's not a huge difference 8.5% isn’t significant?
  - DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
    These numbers aren't directly comparable. They're reported on different timescales, because determining cause of death takes longer than determining that someone who died had CoVID-19.
KaiserPro 6y ago
In the UK, there are the daily public health england tallies, which are unrelaible and include anyone who has died and tested for covid. Then there are the stats from the ONS where they have actually verified that covid is the cause. The numbers are not very different.

fiftyfifty 6y ago

> Keep in mind people who test positive but die of a car wreck are counted as COVID19. In Colorado there was lawsuit over this, because there was a case of a college age man dying of alcohol poisoning but he tested positive for Covid-19 so was counted as a Covid-19 death per CDC regulations. So the Colorado Health Department now tracks two numbers: people that died with Covid-19 and people that died because of Covid-19. As of right now the first is 1,752 deaths and the second is 1,615 deaths. Statistically it's not a huge difference, you can see the numbers here: https://covid19.colorado.gov/data/case-data https://covid19.colorado.gov/data/case-data

xienze 6y ago
> Statistically it's not a huge difference 8.5% isn’t significant?
- DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
  These numbers aren't directly comparable. They're reported on different timescales, because determining cause of death takes longer than determining that someone who died had CoVID-19.

KaiserPro 6y ago

In the UK, there are the daily public health england tallies, which are unrelaible and include anyone who has died and tested for covid. Then there are the stats from the ONS where they have actually verified that covid is the cause. The numbers are not very different.