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Is software startup by solo founders still viable anymore? Today the age of apps/SaaS seems ending. It is oversaturated, and the low hanging (low technical comp

Is software startup by solo founders still viable anymore? Today the age of apps/SaaS seems ending. It is oversaturated, and the low hanging (low technical complexity) fruits are already taken left and right.

nlh 6y ago
This comes up a lot here. In short: * Yes, software startups by solo founders are very much still viable. * No, the age of apps/SaaS is not ending * It is not oversaturated either. There are ALWAYS new ideas to build, new products in demand, and new ways to make money. * It always seems like the low-hanging fruits have been "taken", because you've observed them being successful (it's a reductive argument). They probably weren't low-hanging when they were originally built - just in retrospect. Similarly, some of the app/SaaS ideas being built by solo founders right now may seem low-hanging in a few years. The crispest example someone once gave me for why the world never actually runs out of things to build (easy or otherwise) was: * New technical innovation A emerges (it can be anything - a new sensor on a phone, a new form factor, a new feature in software, a new API, etc.) * Product B emerges that cleverly uses innovation A. * Product C emerges that competes with Product B * Service D emerges that helps compare Products B & C Repeat ad infinitum... Unless you believe we've reached the end of the first step (no new technical innovations!), then we haven't even come close to running out of things to build.
- christiansakai 6y ago
  That's really an interesting example. Thanks
Axsuul 6y ago
Yes, all the low hanging fruit has been taken but why would you want compete on that anyways? Being a solo founder doesn't mean you can't solve hard problems. “You get paid in direct proportion to the difficulty of problems you solve”
- adwn 6y ago
  > “You get paid in direct proportion to the difficulty of problems you solve” No, you really don't. Your "pay" is a function of the market size, your market share, the budget of your customers, the amount of perceived value you create for them, your ability to sell, your costs, and probably some other minor factors. The difficulty of the problems you solve is – if at all – only indirectly related to some of those factors.
  - Axsuul 6y ago
    All those functions all lead back to how difficult of a problem you are solving for them. A difficult problem means there are less competitors and more market share for you, with a high chance that the competition's solution doesn't even deliver on its promises. Less competition naturally leads to a higher premium you can charge. Businesses typically set aside a static budget for software that solves a "low-hanging fruit problem" (e.g. invoicing software). Because a business doesn't have a set budget for problems that they themselves aren't used to having solved, this also feeds back into being able to charge a higher premium. It's also much easier to get traction when solving a hard problem, which is another function of getting paid. Of course, this is all dependent on actually solving the hard problem :)
    - adwn 6y ago
      > All those functions all lead back to how difficult of a problem you are solving for them. No. 1) The market size is independent of the hardness of the problem. 2) The hardness of the problem is independent of the customer's pressure to solve the problem [1]. 3) Even if a customer has a pressing problem, their budget for your product has a hard upper bound: their revenue. In reality it's nearly always several orders of magnitude lower than that. 4) Good marketing and sales has a strong influence on the perceived value your product creates for the customer, which in turn is the primary factor to determine the price you can ask from a specific customer; the perceived hardness of solving that problem is irrelevant to them. [1] For example, solving the Travelling Salesman Problem in polynomial time is generally incredibly hard, probably even impossible, and yet solving it would be pretty inconsequential for logistics companies, because they have heuristic algorithms which are good enough.
cambalache 6y ago
You could have written the same comment 5/10/15/20 years ago. The markets always will be saturated, the low-hanging fruit will always be taken (almost by definition), but then somehow, a new group of kids(and not so-kids) will come up with new solutions.

nlh 6y ago

This comes up a lot here. In short: * Yes, software startups by solo founders are very much still viable. * No, the age of apps/SaaS is not ending * It is not oversaturated either. There are ALWAYS new ideas to build, new products in demand, and new ways to make money. * It always seems like the low-hanging fruits have been "taken", because you've observed them being successful (it's a reductive argument). They probably weren't low-hanging when they were originally built - just in retrospect. Similarly, some of the app/SaaS ideas being built by solo founders right now may seem low-hanging in a few years. The crispest example someone once gave me for why the world never actually runs out of things to build (easy or otherwise) was: * New technical innovation A emerges (it can be anything - a new sensor on a phone, a new form factor, a new feature in software, a new API, etc.) * Product B emerges that cleverly uses innovation A. * Product C emerges that competes with Product B * Service D emerges that helps compare Products B & C Repeat ad infinitum... Unless you believe we've reached the end of the first step (no new technical innovations!), then we haven't even come close to running out of things to build.

christiansakai 6y ago
That's really an interesting example. Thanks

Axsuul 6y ago

Yes, all the low hanging fruit has been taken but why would you want compete on that anyways? Being a solo founder doesn't mean you can't solve hard problems. “You get paid in direct proportion to the difficulty of problems you solve”

adwn 6y ago
> “You get paid in direct proportion to the difficulty of problems you solve” No, you really don't. Your "pay" is a function of the market size, your market share, the budget of your customers, the amount of perceived value you create for them, your ability to sell, your costs, and probably some other minor factors. The difficulty of the problems you solve is – if at all – only indirectly related to some of those factors.
- Axsuul 6y ago
  All those functions all lead back to how difficult of a problem you are solving for them. A difficult problem means there are less competitors and more market share for you, with a high chance that the competition's solution doesn't even deliver on its promises. Less competition naturally leads to a higher premium you can charge. Businesses typically set aside a static budget for software that solves a "low-hanging fruit problem" (e.g. invoicing software). Because a business doesn't have a set budget for problems that they themselves aren't used to having solved, this also feeds back into being able to charge a higher premium. It's also much easier to get traction when solving a hard problem, which is another function of getting paid. Of course, this is all dependent on actually solving the hard problem :)
  - adwn 6y ago
    > All those functions all lead back to how difficult of a problem you are solving for them. No. 1) The market size is independent of the hardness of the problem. 2) The hardness of the problem is independent of the customer's pressure to solve the problem [1]. 3) Even if a customer has a pressing problem, their budget for your product has a hard upper bound: their revenue. In reality it's nearly always several orders of magnitude lower than that. 4) Good marketing and sales has a strong influence on the perceived value your product creates for the customer, which in turn is the primary factor to determine the price you can ask from a specific customer; the perceived hardness of solving that problem is irrelevant to them. [1] For example, solving the Travelling Salesman Problem in polynomial time is generally incredibly hard, probably even impossible, and yet solving it would be pretty inconsequential for logistics companies, because they have heuristic algorithms which are good enough.

cambalache 6y ago

You could have written the same comment 5/10/15/20 years ago. The markets always will be saturated, the low-hanging fruit will always be taken (almost by definition), but then somehow, a new group of kids(and not so-kids) will come up with new solutions.