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Wow. That's a great way to not only piss off the judge, but bring the full wrath of the federal government down on you. Piss off is not the right word, because

by lykr0n 6y ago

Wow. That's a great way to not only piss off the judge, but bring the full wrath of the federal government down on you. Piss off is not the right word, because it marginalizes what happened. But man, that judge is not going to be on your side.

lucd 6y ago
Piss off? Her son was killed and her husband injured.
- MaximumYComb 6y ago
  The judge would likely have prefered to die than for her 20 year old son to die. I think the attackers sent the message they wanted.
kgwxd 6y ago
I'm not too optimistic that this was a "bad" move, just a move by people that have already carefully considered the pros and cons and their conclusion was to make the move, meaning they found more pros than cons.
- valuearb 6y ago
  You mean person.
baq 6y ago
definitely a bad word. this judge will probably suffer a very bad depression, PTSD, all this stuff.
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ForrestN 6y ago
I’m not saying that the speculation implied by this headline is true, but, if this were related to the Epstein case, which explicitly involves the president, who just commuted the sentence of one of his several criminal associates... I’m not sure why you’d imagine the government would act with moral force and clarity here.
- jariel 6y ago
  Trump is just one man, not the government. The Justice System as a whole will take such an attack 'personally' and everyone in the system will be 'on the move'. Imagine a corporation of people just 'doing their jobs' and punching out. Now imagine said corporation where everyone is personally, emotionally committed towards 'getting that special project done' and everyone is 'all hands on' and they 'really mean it'. There won't be internal fighting over who gets what, anyone who needs help from anyone else is going to get i because 'we're gonna get that guy'. To boot, they didn't kill the judge, they killed their kid. This just makes it a lot worse. Every cop, judge, detective, FBI agent is thinking about their families tonight.
  - jacobush 6y ago
    I really hope you are right, but sometimes when people are scared, it feels safer to think of the victim as "the other". Someone which while maybe didn't quite got justice, got what was coming. This is one time I hope for esprit de corps to prevail, oddly enough.
    - jariel 6y ago
      This is 'revenge' (not quite that, but like that) - a very specific kind of 'esprit de corps' and very deep motivator. A lot of people joined the forces after 9/11, somewhat similar.
dogma1138 6y ago
There is no way she won’t recuse herself from any current cases and possibly take a sabbatical to recover. So while she might be “pissed” it wouldn’t matter.
lm28469 6y ago
Wouldn't that immediately place the judge in a conflict of interest position ? She wouldn't be able to do her job (impartiality, &c.) as a judge if she knows one of the person she has to judge potentially ordered the hit.

by lykr0n 6y ago

lucd 6y ago

Piss off? Her son was killed and her husband injured.

MaximumYComb 6y ago
The judge would likely have prefered to die than for her 20 year old son to die. I think the attackers sent the message they wanted.

kgwxd 6y ago

I'm not too optimistic that this was a "bad" move, just a move by people that have already carefully considered the pros and cons and their conclusion was to make the move, meaning they found more pros than cons.

valuearb 6y ago
You mean person.

baq 6y ago

definitely a bad word. this judge will probably suffer a very bad depression, PTSD, all this stuff.

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ForrestN 6y ago

I’m not saying that the speculation implied by this headline is true, but, if this were related to the Epstein case, which explicitly involves the president, who just commuted the sentence of one of his several criminal associates... I’m not sure why you’d imagine the government would act with moral force and clarity here.

jariel 6y ago
Trump is just one man, not the government. The Justice System as a whole will take such an attack 'personally' and everyone in the system will be 'on the move'. Imagine a corporation of people just 'doing their jobs' and punching out. Now imagine said corporation where everyone is personally, emotionally committed towards 'getting that special project done' and everyone is 'all hands on' and they 'really mean it'. There won't be internal fighting over who gets what, anyone who needs help from anyone else is going to get i because 'we're gonna get that guy'. To boot, they didn't kill the judge, they killed their kid. This just makes it a lot worse. Every cop, judge, detective, FBI agent is thinking about their families tonight.
- jacobush 6y ago
  I really hope you are right, but sometimes when people are scared, it feels safer to think of the victim as "the other". Someone which while maybe didn't quite got justice, got what was coming. This is one time I hope for esprit de corps to prevail, oddly enough.
  - jariel 6y ago
    This is 'revenge' (not quite that, but like that) - a very specific kind of 'esprit de corps' and very deep motivator. A lot of people joined the forces after 9/11, somewhat similar.

dogma1138 6y ago

There is no way she won’t recuse herself from any current cases and possibly take a sabbatical to recover. So while she might be “pissed” it wouldn’t matter.

lm28469 6y ago

Wouldn't that immediately place the judge in a conflict of interest position ? She wouldn't be able to do her job (impartiality, &c.) as a judge if she knows one of the person she has to judge potentially ordered the hit.