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Assasination attempt on judge of the Epstein/Deutsche Bank case
- lykr0n 6y agoWow. That's a great way to not only piss off the judge, but bring the full wrath of the federal government down on you. Piss off is not the right word, because it marginalizes what happened. But man, that judge is not going to be on your side.
- lucd 6y agoPiss off? Her son was killed and her husband injured.
- MaximumYComb 6y agoThe judge would likely have prefered to die than for her 20 year old son to die. I think the attackers sent the message they wanted.
- kgwxd 6y agoI'm not too optimistic that this was a "bad" move, just a move by people that have already carefully considered the pros and cons and their conclusion was to make the move, meaning they found more pros than cons.
- valuearb 6y agoYou mean person.
- baq 6y agodefinitely a bad word. this judge will probably suffer a very bad depression, PTSD, all this stuff.
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- ForrestN 6y agoI’m not saying that the speculation implied by this headline is true, but, if this were related to the Epstein case, which explicitly involves the president, who just commuted the sentence of one of his several criminal associates... I’m not sure why you’d imagine the government would act with moral force and clarity here.
- jariel 6y agoTrump is just one man, not the government. The Justice System as a whole will take such an attack 'personally' and everyone in the system will be 'on the move'. Imagine a corporation of people just 'doing their jobs' and punching out. Now imagine said corporation where everyone is personally, emotionally committed towards 'getting that special project done' and everyone is 'all hands on' and they 'really mean it'. There won't be internal fighting over who gets what, anyone who needs help from anyone else is going to get i because 'we're gonna get that guy'. To boot, they didn't kill the judge, they killed their kid. This just makes it a lot worse. Every cop, judge, detective, FBI agent is thinking about their families tonight.
- jacobush 6y agoI really hope you are right, but sometimes when people are scared, it feels safer to think of the victim as "the other". Someone which while maybe didn't quite got justice, got what was coming. This is one time I hope for esprit de corps to prevail, oddly enough.
- jariel 6y agoThis is 'revenge' (not quite that, but like that) - a very specific kind of 'esprit de corps' and very deep motivator. A lot of people joined the forces after 9/11, somewhat similar.
- dogma1138 6y agoThere is no way she won’t recuse herself from any current cases and possibly take a sabbatical to recover. So while she might be “pissed” it wouldn’t matter.
- lm28469 6y agoWouldn't that immediately place the judge in a conflict of interest position ? She wouldn't be able to do her job (impartiality, &c.) as a judge if she knows one of the person she has to judge potentially ordered the hit.
- adamnemecek 6y agoHere's a link on the Epstein connection https://news.bloomberglaw.com/securities-law/deutsche-bank-investors-sue-over-epstein-ties-stock-drops https://news.bloomberglaw.com/securities-law/deutsche-bank-i...
- jb775 6y agoDetails are more grim than the title...the judge's husband and son were shot by a gunman dressed as a FedEx driver. Son died, husband is in critical condition.
- stx 6y agoI wonder how they know how the shooter was dressed if the son died and the husband is in critical condition. Ring doorbell camera or maybe the son or husband was able to give a description before passing or going to the hospital. I hope there is video evidence.
- panarky 6y agoThey don't know this, it's speculation. There was a Fedex driver in the area, but they don't know if he's the perpetrator.
- rl3 6y agoThe title is both editorialized and making assumptions. We do not know the motive nor the intended targets of the perpetrator.
- Simulacra 6y agoFor a moment I will consider the conspiracy: If you kill a judge, another will simply take their place and the process will continue. Ergo the only way the conspiracy holds water is if the judge could not be persuaded to violate her oath, etc. or the chances of a judge who would be more favorable would be set to take her place. It's madness.
- mclightning 6y agowell, unless you know/or have power over who the next judge is.
- ponker 6y agoIf you are the replacement judge for a judge whose son was murdered you will probably save your own family and rule in favor of the powerful party that ordered the hit.
- jariel 6y agoProbably the opposite. There will be so much oversight now, and 'all eyes will be on'. I don't think the system is likely to cower like that in the face of such a big, literally international issue.
- mercer 6y agoConsidering the limp-dicked response to Epstein's 'suicide' , what makes you have so much faith in 'the system' when possible powerful elements in this system are implicated?
- eternalban 6y agoThat begs the question of why was asset Epstein left out to dry. Wexner, for example, is still protected by media shading lack of investigation of that prime 'sponsor' of Epstein's very well promoted career as a financial genius. Since this was like a mob hit, I think the global protection racket you refer to as 'the system' is possibly manifesting conflict in 'the commission'. You see this at every level these days. There is a re-alignment going on, it seems, and not everyone is on board. (Just speculation.)
- SamReidHughes 6y agoThis is a big deal, and it's not the only hit on a lawyer recently, and we also don't know whether the judge or the judge's husband was the target, and why. Epstein is actually an unlikely factor.
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