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The photo doesn't picture the typical Siberian I'd say. Looks like these are natives or Buryatia (which is actually a part of Siberia next to Mongolian border)

The photo doesn't picture the typical Siberian I'd say. Looks like these are natives or Buryatia (which is actually a part of Siberia next to Mongolian border) Pics of a typical Siberian: https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%B8&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%... > Siberian-ism, a regional patriotism distinct from (European) Russia, is growing. It was always present, I was raised ~60 miles from Moscow. Regional patriotism was present at all times, "The Moscow Person" was always someone from another planet. They had everything, and everyone outside Moscow knew that Moscow lives because of draining resources from the other regions. Also, translation of "How Siberians are different from Russians": https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Frussian7.ru%2Fpost%2Fchem-sibiryaki-otlichayutsya-ot-russkikh%2F https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3...

CGamesPlay 6y ago
It's weird to me that the google search for "сибиряки" shows these old photos. I guess the term has fallen out of use? Here's a more modern search: https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8C+%D0%BB%D1%8E%D0%B4%D0%B8&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiIwr6m1NrqAhWFsjEKHTfcDI0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8C+%D0%BB%D1%8E%D0%B4%D0%B8&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1AAWABgv4QCaABwAHgAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ei=ovAUX4jpLoXlxgG3uLPoCA https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%...
- shitgoose 6y ago
  Right, it is something like "people of America" vs "Americans". Interesting observation.
throwaway8463 6y ago
Depending on one’s locality and bias, “the typical Siberian is a white person” may or may not ring true. In large cities people would seem predominantly white or mixed. Going into smaller towns it is much less clear-cut, and further away you’ll find villages without a single non-indigenous resident (read: everyone is Asian-looking). In such regions indigenous languages have official status alongside Russian, which they are not mutually intelligible with. In my opinion it is entirely fair to illustrate an article about Siberians with a photo representing one of the many native peoples. Source: grew up in a region of Russian Siberia with less than 60% of ethnically Russian residents per last census, most of which from my observation concentrated in and around the largest municipality. Taking that number at face value is, of course, assuming that all of the indigenous people, many of whom don’t speak Russian and live in remote villages, were counted in the 2010 census and declared their ethnicity “correctly”.
082349872349872 6y ago
For some reason I had thought Shoygu was siberian, but no, he's tuvan. From the east coast[1], there's always Kola Beldy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBtOTstM-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBtOTstM-4 shown here with the glass-front planes mentioned elsewhere on HN. (I learned of this song from "Spitting Image", where the artist covering it not only did an ethnicity, but also gender, swap.) A more recent altai music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik1Y88n1Uog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik1Y88n1Uog (Thumb rings were a steppe invention making it easier to hold a drawn hunting bow.) [1] Песни чтоб из Магадана / телевизор у дивана / Водку закусить бананом / любит наш народ.

CGamesPlay 6y ago

It's weird to me that the google search for "сибиряки" shows these old photos. I guess the term has fallen out of use? Here's a more modern search: https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8C+%D0%BB%D1%8E%D0%B4%D0%B8&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiIwr6m1NrqAhWFsjEKHTfcDI0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%80%D1%8C+%D0%BB%D1%8E%D0%B4%D0%B8&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1AAWABgv4QCaABwAHgAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img&ei=ovAUX4jpLoXlxgG3uLPoCA https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%...

shitgoose 6y ago
Right, it is something like "people of America" vs "Americans". Interesting observation.

throwaway8463 6y ago

Depending on one’s locality and bias, “the typical Siberian is a white person” may or may not ring true. In large cities people would seem predominantly white or mixed. Going into smaller towns it is much less clear-cut, and further away you’ll find villages without a single non-indigenous resident (read: everyone is Asian-looking). In such regions indigenous languages have official status alongside Russian, which they are not mutually intelligible with. In my opinion it is entirely fair to illustrate an article about Siberians with a photo representing one of the many native peoples. Source: grew up in a region of Russian Siberia with less than 60% of ethnically Russian residents per last census, most of which from my observation concentrated in and around the largest municipality. Taking that number at face value is, of course, assuming that all of the indigenous people, many of whom don’t speak Russian and live in remote villages, were counted in the 2010 census and declared their ethnicity “correctly”.

082349872349872 6y ago

For some reason I had thought Shoygu was siberian, but no, he's tuvan. From the east coast[1], there's always Kola Beldy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBtOTstM-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBtOTstM-4 shown here with the glass-front planes mentioned elsewhere on HN. (I learned of this song from "Spitting Image", where the artist covering it not only did an ethnicity, but also gender, swap.) A more recent altai music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik1Y88n1Uog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik1Y88n1Uog (Thumb rings were a steppe invention making it easier to hold a drawn hunting bow.) [1] Песни чтоб из Магадана / телевизор у дивана / Водку закусить бананом / любит наш народ.