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> There is culture around it that defines what gamer is That "culture" is just the gamer stereotype. If you play games, you're a gamer. Whether you choose to

> There is culture around it that defines what gamer is That "culture" is just the gamer stereotype. If you play games, you're a gamer. Whether you choose to self-describe that way is irrelevant. Whether people who self-describe that way also describe you that way is irrelevant. You may as well claim to ride bicycles but not be "cyclist" because you don't own spandex. If you ride bicycles you're a cyclist, whether or not you self-describe as a cyclist, whether or not people who self-describe as cyclists consider you a cyclist, and whether or not you resemble the stereotype of cyclists. If you ride bicycles, you're a cyclist. If you play games, you're a gamer.

pests 6y ago
Thanks for being on this thread here and elsewhere, I forgot to check replies for awhile. I agree completely. If anything they need to do what the deaf/Deaf community does and actually brand as a capital-g Gamer. Remember the whole point of this post is that the military is using games to recruit kids. It does not matter if they are a Gamer or a gamer in that case because it doesn't matter. The military will be on Twitch or running real-life fire team tactics in COD Warzone and it doesn't matter anymore. Gamer or gamer they will reach some kids, some of which will be fit enough to join.
watwut 6y ago
No, gamers themselves distinguish between gamers and non gamers. Quite strongly and it is important to them. Gamers do have shared values I tend to disagree with. No cyclist ever told "she/he is not a real cyclist", so cyclist is descriptor for people who cycle enough. Cyclist is not identity. Gamer is identity and subculture, because gamers use it as identity. You can't be like "she is not real gamer" and then turn around "everyone who occasionally play games is gamer" when it suddenly suits you. The things gamers consider good, I don't. The shared values and culture of gamers makes them more then just stereotype. And also, I am here talking about things and people I gave experience with, both online and in person. No, it is not media stereotype what I talk about. More of conclusions based on interacting with gamers.

pests 6y ago

Thanks for being on this thread here and elsewhere, I forgot to check replies for awhile. I agree completely. If anything they need to do what the deaf/Deaf community does and actually brand as a capital-g Gamer. Remember the whole point of this post is that the military is using games to recruit kids. It does not matter if they are a Gamer or a gamer in that case because it doesn't matter. The military will be on Twitch or running real-life fire team tactics in COD Warzone and it doesn't matter anymore. Gamer or gamer they will reach some kids, some of which will be fit enough to join.

watwut 6y ago

No, gamers themselves distinguish between gamers and non gamers. Quite strongly and it is important to them. Gamers do have shared values I tend to disagree with. No cyclist ever told "she/he is not a real cyclist", so cyclist is descriptor for people who cycle enough. Cyclist is not identity. Gamer is identity and subculture, because gamers use it as identity. You can't be like "she is not real gamer" and then turn around "everyone who occasionally play games is gamer" when it suddenly suits you. The things gamers consider good, I don't. The shared values and culture of gamers makes them more then just stereotype. And also, I am here talking about things and people I gave experience with, both online and in person. No, it is not media stereotype what I talk about. More of conclusions based on interacting with gamers.