>... you have a discussion between Marxists of the classical and less Leninist sort and Randians you will find huge areas of overlap outside economics. These in

>... you have a discussion between Marxists of the classical and less Leninist sort and Randians you will find huge areas of overlap outside economics. These include technology, the notion of progress, science, the importance of education, etc. You can see that on a Pournelle chart of political ideology which maps ideology on a 2d graph instead of just a line. >...The x-axis, "Attitude toward the State" (labeled statism), refers to a political philosophy's attitude toward the state and centralized government. The farthest right is "state worship" and the farthest left represents the state as the "ultimate evil", preferring individual freedom. >...The y-axis, "Attitude toward planned social progress" (labeled rationalism), refers to the extent which a political philosophy is compatible with the idea that social problems can be solved by the use of reason. Ayn Rand and various Marxists would likely both score high on the rationalism scale (and be at close to opposite sides of the statism scale). (There might be many other multi-dimensional mappings that work better to map political ideology, but anything is likely better than the common practice of just mapping all ideology on a single line.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart