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>I just think the opening sentence is beautiful, it combines the concepts of male and female in a lovely, natural way ignoring today's PC-bullshit. Honestly, I

by dTal 6y ago

>I just think the opening sentence is beautiful, it combines the concepts of male and female in a lovely, natural way ignoring today's PC-bullshit. Honestly, I am astonished that you can be so conscious of the effect of language on thinking in the context of programming, and yet so tone-deaf when writing your copy. This is not "today's PC bullshit", it is an effort to eradicate structural sexism going back at least half a century. It is not lovely and natural to use "man" as a default for "men and women" - it rings strangely to the modern ear, and you have attracted a number of comments about it. Maybe 40 years ago taking this position would have been forgivable, but in 2020 you are very much on the wrong side of this battle. I commend this article by Douglas Hofstadter to you. It was written in 1982: http://leeclarke.com/courses/intro/readings/Hofstadter_Changes_in_Default-_Words_and_Images.pdf http://leeclarke.com/courses/intro/readings/Hofstadter_Chang...

gabordemooij 6y ago
Love it. I phrased it this way just to trigger you. There is no structural sexism except maybe in some Islamic countries - but I don't hear anyone about that. Women are free to do whatever they want. If they feel offended by words they probably don't belong outside the house.
- hhas01 6y ago
  Well congrats on being a Grade-A douche. I strongly recommend you go find a new hobby—one you can play by yourself—because with salesmanship like that your project is already dead. https://jaxenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/women-in-compsci-majors.png https://jaxenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/women-in-com...
  - gabordemooij 6y ago
    The Citrine license does not forbid women from using it, that would be true sexism. Abolishing words because of 'gendered language' is not something I believe in. I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of thought. Citrine is a project that cannot live without a free mind. As such, conforming to groupthink would kill Citrine and there would be nothing left to share anyway.
- dTal 6y ago
  >I phrased it this way just to trigger you. This is unfriendly. >If they feel offended by words they probably don't belong outside the house. I'm afraid that with this you move from "tone-deaf" to "overtly sexist".

by dTal 6y ago

gabordemooij 6y ago

Love it. I phrased it this way just to trigger you. There is no structural sexism except maybe in some Islamic countries - but I don't hear anyone about that. Women are free to do whatever they want. If they feel offended by words they probably don't belong outside the house.

hhas01 6y ago
Well congrats on being a Grade-A douche. I strongly recommend you go find a new hobby—one you can play by yourself—because with salesmanship like that your project is already dead. https://jaxenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/women-in-compsci-majors.png https://jaxenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/women-in-com...
- gabordemooij 6y ago
  The Citrine license does not forbid women from using it, that would be true sexism. Abolishing words because of 'gendered language' is not something I believe in. I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of thought. Citrine is a project that cannot live without a free mind. As such, conforming to groupthink would kill Citrine and there would be nothing left to share anyway.
dTal 6y ago
>I phrased it this way just to trigger you. This is unfriendly. >If they feel offended by words they probably don't belong outside the house. I'm afraid that with this you move from "tone-deaf" to "overtly sexist".