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Worms Armageddon 3.8
- typh00n 6y agoA game still in official development after 21 years of release and compatibility for Win9x machines.
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- Polylactic_acid 6y agoIt sounds like the copyright owners have allowed a fan of the game to work on it for free.
- WilTimSon 6y agoOh wow, this is amazing. Not only is the game kept alive literally decades later but it's being done by a fan no less! This is really great, I might actually fire it up to play a game or two, maybe some mates will want to relive the "good old years". Haven't kept up with Worms after 3D came around but the original formula is absolutely ingenious.
- Sharlin 6y ago21 years ago?! I'm officially old now.
- dane-pgp 6y agoOne of the interesting unique features of Worms Armageddon is that it somehow has the ability to predict the results of various elections: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Trlf2He3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Trlf2He3c
- rusty__ 6y agoamazing little moments all throughout that video haha
- dane-pgp 6y agoAfter the 2019 election results were announced, the YouTuber tweeted: "The Worms Armageddon Political Simulation Machine is too strong. No person should have this much power. I'm smashing it as soon as I get home, before it does more damage."[0] So I guess that video series won't be getting a sequel in time for November. [0] https://twitter.com/manyatruenerd/status/1205250275117862913 https://twitter.com/manyatruenerd/status/1205250275117862913
- akerro 6y agoTake that Blizzard!
- CyberShadow 6y agoWorms Armageddon maintainer here, AMA :) Here is a somewhat more nicely formatted list of highlights: https://worms2d.info/Worms_Armageddon_3.8_Features https://worms2d.info/Worms_Armageddon_3.8_Features
- gryzzly 6y agoA question: Is there any place where the patch can be purchased / downloaded to install onto existing files (apart from Steam)?
- CyberShadow 6y agoIf you have the game on CD (any edition), you can download an updater for the CD version from here: https://worms2d.info/Updates_(Worms_Armageddon) https://worms2d.info/Updates_(Worms_Armageddon)
- Lammy 6y agoAny chance of seeing an update to the Dreamcast version? :p (Thank you!!)
- komali2 6y agoWhat's the motivation behind continually updating such an old, albeit very fun, game?
- riggsdk 6y agoI bought the game when it was first released and I loved it. May I ask how come you are still working on the game? Out of sheer love for it? Did you work on the "original" codebase before becoming a maintainer?
- CyberShadow 6y ago> May I ask how come you are still working on the game? Out of sheer love for it? Yes, for the game and its community. After so many years of playing the game and being part of the community, it is now an inextricable part of ourselves. > Did you work on the "original" codebase before becoming a maintainer? No; I started playing Worms World Party maybe around 2004. In 2006 I started writing third-party add-ons for the game, and I had been given a copy of the source code so I could continue maintaining it alongside Deadcode (David Ellsworth, the first maintainer).
- sillysaurusx 6y agoDo you think anyone will write a web-based version of Worms? Multiplayer, in the browser. It seems like it would be hugely popular. You could even turn websites themselves into arenas to battle in. :) Imagine blowing up a hacker news comment.
- CyberShadow 6y agoThat would be fun. There's actually a Worms Armageddon inspired web game written in Rust: https://cratebeforeattack.com/ https://cratebeforeattack.com/
- encom 6y agoThis exchange is as HackerNews-y as it gets. I'll have to make Worms-as-a-Service, to keep up.
- tobias2014 6y agoPretty cool. There was also a playable web version of Hedgewars via emscripten at some point. The emscripten version is currently unmaintained, and I think the project would be happy for someone to upgrade the toolchain and provide patches that make it work again. Check them out at https://www.hedgewars.org/ https://www.hedgewars.org/ and #hedgewars @ irc.freenode.net
- imsky 6y agohttps://www.webliero.com https://www.webliero.com shows it's possible
- humbledrone 6y agoI made a web-based clone as a Java applet circa 2003-2004 for a $300 contract on rentacoder.com for which I was never paid. :) I built just the basic skeleton of a game engine, and stupidly handed over the code to the client before they paid me. They went on to find another contractor to dupe and turned it into a game called "Fat Super Heroes" which was online for a while on some sleazy website where you could gamble real money on the outcome of the game. The original (horrible, terrible, hacky) engine I wrote is here: https://github.com/emezeske/museum-of-ancient-artifacts/tree/master/worms https://github.com/emezeske/museum-of-ancient-artifacts/tree... I don't think it ever got much real popularity; I was not a fan of the theme and the second contractor added a bunch of bloat that made it load slowly, etc. But it was quite a fun learning experience.
- nix23 6y agoWait!! A game that came out 20 years ago and still gets a patch...take my money!! EDIT: Well you got it, maybe Linux with the next patch? :)
- snazz 6y agoIt mentions Proton support in the linked article, so Linux should work fine.
- steren 6y agoIn the release notes, they say it runs well in Wine on Linux
- nix23 6y agoNaa native i mean...maybe bsd's too, sure it works with wine, but since it's still maintained....
- striking 6y agoWine's the best you're going to get here, probably for a long time. And it works really, really well. It even works under Wayland, which is not the case for a whole lot of games in Wine. Buy it on Steam, hit Play, enjoy. Seriously.
- Polylactic_acid 6y agoProton is at the point where its almost better than native. Worms W.M.D has a native linux version but it only works properly on ubuntu due to some weird library issue. Some people suggest playing the windows version in proton is easier than getting the linux version to work.
- nix23 6y ago>Proton is at the point where its almost better than native. Almost better....what do's that even say??
- atum47 6y agowell, I had this on a CD. now I'm going to look for it.
- atum47 6y agoDoes anyone remember what magazine gave this game? I think it was a magazine called "full pc game" but I can't seem to find anything on google. Got age of empires II the same way.
- eddyl 6y agoIt might have been PC Gamer [1] magazine. I had both Worms Armageddon and Age of Empires II in the late '90s, and I remember some copies of this magazine lying around. I think this magazine would come with demo CDs pretty often. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Gamer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_Gamer
- scrollaway 6y agoI got it off SVM Mac, but it seems unlikely that's the magazine you're thinking of :)
- crackinmalackin 6y agoThis is incredible! Thank you so much for all your hard work! Words cannot express my gratitude for this. I have so many fond memories of playing worms WA with friends and family. Is there a way we can help support your work here? Or at least a way to say thank you?
- throwawaysea 6y agoI can’t believe this game is over 20 years old. If you haven’t tried Worms ever, please give it a shot. It captures an innocent and growing age of gaming, before the modern AAA production budgets, before social media, before societal division, where it was fun to play outside and fun to play on the computer. I’m not sure how to describe it but I hope those who try it for the first time feel the same good vibes.
- 2ion 6y agoAfter looking for something similar I have been playing Hedgewars https://www.hedgewars.org/ https://www.hedgewars.org/ which is Hogs instead of Worms, an interesting code base and play mode addons based on Lua. Not looking back to Worms. There's a nice European userbase and if you tune in at hedgehog hour (8pm time in CEST/CET) you'll have some fine company. My favourite mod is Monarchy: https://www.hedgewars.org/node/6718#comment-34937 https://www.hedgewars.org/node/6718#comment-34937.
- tuco86 6y agohedgewars is awesome. lived with 3 friends and installed this on our beamer in the living room. Competition is fierce still, in 5+ years nobody would even change team once. we lost track of score 3 years into the competition tho.
- fyfy18 6y agoWhat does "beamer" in this context mean? Where I'm from it is slang for a BMW car, which I'm guessing you don't have in your living room.
- tobias2014 6y agoIt's German (pseudo-anglicism) for video projector.
- StavrosK 6y agoI just tried that but the movement feels markedly worse than Worms, and the game feels much less polished overall. Is it still fun despite that?
- 2ion 6y agoFor me it is? But take that as coming from a guy who literally has been playing 3 games (Xonotic/Nexuiz, tome4 and Hedgewars) in the past 5 years on and off, and nothing else.
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- mmastrac 6y agoOh wow. I think I still have my legit retail CD kicking around somewhere. Had no idea it was still maintained. Can I still use that CD? IIRC it had some pretty wild DRM on it for the time and it took forever to crack.
- CyberShadow 6y agoYes, you can use your CD! Copy-protection was removed in updates a long time ago. Simply install the game and then install 3.8, it will download and update anything else necessary.
- mmastrac 6y agoThank you for this info. I think I might!
- hatsunearu 6y agoI tried an open source clone of Worms called hedgewars with my friend and it was pretty good
- iso8859-1 6y agoHow much work is it too keep compatibility for old platforms? Like, can you use the newest MSVC? What are the ugliest workarounds you had to do?
- Deadcode0 6y agoI'll take this one :) Not even a hello world supports Windows 95 when compiled by MSVC 2005, and it's just because of a call to IsDebuggerPresent() in the standard library's startup code. To work around this, I overrode the definition of that function in one of WA's .cpp modules, to delay-load the real function, and return FALSE if it doesn't exist: extern "C" __declspec(noinline) BOOL WINAPI _imp__IsDebuggerPresent(VOID) { typedef BOOL (WINAPI *IsDebuggerPresent_t)(VOID); if (HMODULE lib = GetModuleHandle("KERNEL32.dll")) if (IsDebuggerPresent_t proc = (IsDebuggerPresent_t)GetProcAddress(lib, "IsDebuggerPresent")) return proc(); return FALSE; } (Many more hacks like this would be necessary if using a later version of MSVC. So I use Daffodil to allow using a later version of Visual Studio while still using Visual C++ 2005 for the actual compiling.) Other than that, it was just a matter of identifying all the API calls requiring Windows 98 or later and replacing them with their Windows 95 equivalents. In cases where this would mean sacrificing functionality, that meant delay-loading the Windows 98-or-later version and falling back to the Windows 95 version if necessary, such as with GetDiskFreeSpaceEx() vs. GetDiskFreeSpace().
- jhasse 6y agoDo you still test on Windows 95?
- Deadcode0 6y agoYes, occasionally, under a VM (and at least one of our alpha testers has tested it on a period-correct machine). Windows 95 support isn't perfect; Hardware Cursors don't work properly (an option that didn't exist in WA v3.0) although that has a simple workaround – disabling them. And the game's taskbar button sticks on the taskbar after the game has been closed, disappearing only after being clicked. Other than that it works fine as far as we're aware.
- orliesaurus 6y agoTime to undust my zooka and go back playing some Shopper and Roper
- quikoa 6y agoIt's also 80% off right now on humbelbundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/worms-armageddon https://www.humblebundle.com/store/worms-armageddon
- thesquib 6y agoGames that keep giving patches and content after that long are something special! Clan Lord is another game that is over 30 years old and still gets (infrequent) major content updates: https://deltatao.com/clanlord/ https://deltatao.com/clanlord/
- peterburkimsher 6y agoIn December a company moved out of the office next door, leaving behind old laptops and other hardware. I reinstalled Windows XP and gave the computers to the homestay family I live with: Anna (9 years old) and Karen (6 years old). Karen REALLY likes playing Worms Armageddon, just like I did when I was her age. I'm also having a lot of fun playing it again.
- simplify 6y agoThat trailer is phenomenal. The sheep-flying presentation, the music, the audio-visual rhythmic beats, the humor... truly fantastic artistry.
- cugs 6y agoAgreed. Most game trailers completely lose me; That was a joy to watch.
- mensetmanusman 6y agoI remember playing this with my brothers 20 years ago. Such fun times on the basement LAN :)
- varshithr 6y agoMissed an opportunity to call it Wormageddon:)
- CyberShadow 6y agoThat's actually one of the internal names, which can be seen in WormNET URLs: http://wormnet1.team17.com/wormageddonweb/Login.asp http://wormnet1.team17.com/wormageddonweb/Login.asp
- boomahora 6y agoWow this brought back memories of holy hand grenades and banana bombs. Thanks for keeping this alive!
- styfle 6y agoI used to play Worms Armageddon back in the day and picked up Worms 3D a few years later. The 2D version always had a special place in my heart but I must have lost the CD-ROM over the years. It’s exciting to see this game is still worked on, I’ll have to dust off the old PC and try it out again! I noticed there is a version for iOS—will iOS also get the update?