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I’m in the UK. I can see this is going to mean a huge chunk of products disappearing from amazon here. A lot of stuff I order comes from Europe. So supply chain
by m0xte 6y ago
I’m in the UK. I can see this is going to mean a huge chunk of products disappearing from amazon here. A lot of stuff I order comes from Europe. So supply chain problems for months here we come!
Fun times ahead. And no I didn’t vote for this shit show.
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoAt least now you get to keep those 350 million GBP a week. /s
- zigzagzog 6y agoFreedom isn't free, there's a hefty f*ing fee.
- smcl 6y agoI really wish someone bothered to hold his feet to the fire on that one. He just got to chuckle and shrug it off, and the reaction from most seems to be “lol oh that’s our Boris”
- m0xte 6y agoBit difficult when they control the press.
- ChuckNorris89 6y agoThe way my British friends told me, nobody really took the brexit vote seriously and treated it like a Lord Buckethead, Boaty McBoat Face joke. At least until the mic dropped and the consequences of their joke vote became clear.
- RantyDave 6y agoThere were people on the TV the next morning all "I didn't think my vote would count" or "I just wanted to tell the government to stuff it".
- dariosalvi78 6y agoThey confirmed they wanted Brexit in the last elections. They had no excuses when Boris was elected. If that is what people want, that is what people deserve.
- rwmj 6y agoThat's more a consequence of our terrible electoral system combined with the most incompetent / most poisonous opposition leader ever.
- yeet_away 6y agoLol, people say this but I think he was actual opposition to the Tories. KS will not fight anything the Tories want. It will be disastrous for the working people. Shame Labour have reeled back to the depths of hell with New Labour. All I'm suggesting is that the Centrists need to get a grip. Either be with the right wing bring back the Empire type or move left and join to progress society.
- threatofrain 6y agoFrom the outside it looks as if Brexit is at most slightly unpopular, so it's not unimaginable to believe that in fluctuation we might occasionally find it to be the marginally popular position.
- iso947 6y agoEuro elections had Farage beating Lib Dems, 2017 had Tory win too. Fear of Corbyn was a factor, but so was the “get on with it” sentiment
- fmajid 6y ago> Who is the greater fool, the fool or the fool who follows him? Obi-Wan Kenobi
- scott_w 6y agoSome of that comes from the political deadlock that came out of the referendum result. Once the process got hard, there was a feeling of "just make this pain stop!" and the result was the 2019 election. I do recall some conversations (with Leave voters, no less!) where it was felt the government shouldn't have wasted our time asking us. It's not the public's job to understand the details of international relations, yet it was foisted on the people. In spite of that, the government got it's answer, so just do it!
- d4rti 6y agoI took it seriously. In my social group, the bigger problem I saw was delusional Lexiteers. They're due to get literally nothing they said wanted out of Brexit. I hope one day we can rejoin, and it doesn't break the UK into pieces, but right now I can't see the Union surviving.
- smcl 6y agoYes! I encountered these "Lexit" guys too and couldn't believe what I was hearing when they were telling me about how they voted Brexit and why, it just seemed incredibly naive.
- dijit 6y agoFor a lot of people it was a protest vote. They knew Cameron wanted them to vote one way so they did the opposite, it was a vote against the status quo. For other people they genuinely believed the scapegoating the UK media had done for 20 years+ For others, a minority, they thought that this was a way of pushing the EU to reform some of its more silly practices (like moving parliament around for no reason)
- iso947 6y agoMoving parliament is a political compromise, not unlike the 1790 compromise in the US
- Paradigma11 6y agoThe EU would strongly prefer to stop this silly moving practice but France vetos against it.
- marcinzm 6y agoYet the pro-brexit party is still in power, so it seems the majority still wants brexit or at least isn't willing to put their money where their mouth is.
- m0xte 6y agoGive it time. Much like the average smoker, the regret doesn’t really kick in until you’re well up shit creek without a paddle.
- smcl 6y agoAt the point of the 2019 election stopping Brexit wasn't really on the table - no major party was against it. Labour had a vague message that was not anti-Brexit. Lib Dems may have technically been anti-Brexit but have no trust (is "no Brexit" the same as "no tuition fees"?) and have fewer seats than even the SNP (oh and their leader lost her seat). The public were basically given no choice in 2019
- bostik 6y agoI'm still waiting for him to fill the much promised ditch.
- sangnoir 6y agoWhoever his PR people are did a bang-up job on Social Media /SEO by making him say he likes painting little buses as a hobby. This displaced the previous top results for the search term "Boris Bus" (i.e. the bus with the 350 million GBP lie). It was very "Black Mirror".
- ric2b 6y agoI don't know if that ever worked but searching for "Boris Bus" right now on DDG or Google yields mostly results and images of the infamous campaign bus.
- sangnoir 6y agoThe campaign was specifically timed at a crucial point in time when Johnson was jockeying to be the Prime Minister (June 2019). Search engines have a recency bias, and that story made it to all British news sites.
- cm2187 6y agoActually if you prorated the demand from the EU in term of exit payment to the length of the residual budget, you were well over 350m pw. And that's before the big €700bn+ package that the EU is cooking right now which will dwarf those numbers.
- dmos62 6y agoI love that you felt you had to point out you were being sarcastic.
- sharken 6y agoNot saying this isn't bad for the UK, but this is one of the very real consequences of opting out of the EU. But perhaps this might break some of the Amazon dominance and make way for other options - that would be a real benefit.
- jeffrallen 6y agoThat's what happens in Switzerland. See payot.ch, galaxus.ch, and ceedee.ch. Local jobs for local purchases. Nice concept. Also: the products are more expensive, which is what it costs for your neighbor to have a job and not unemployment.
- nico_h 6y agoGalaxus’s is expanding in Germany. I think there are other semi specialised retailers like Fnac , interdiscount, Mediamarkt that have local shops and shipping.
- m0xte 6y agoAmazon solved a fairly large problem with retailers here. They were shit and abusive to the customers. It’ll just slip back to the status quo again if we lose amazon dominance I hate to say. I’d rather prefer it if that wasn’t the case for ref but I know British culture well enough to know that we’re lazy and selfish.
- smileypete 6y ago>Amazon solved a fairly large problem with retailers here. They were shit and abusive to the customers. So what's all this 'comingling' thing about then? I assure you that if AMZN becomes dominant, customer service will get worse not better. Bezos is not a charity. >I’d rather prefer it if that wasn’t the case for ref but I know British culture well enough to know that we’re lazy and selfish. Substitute 'Romanian' for 'British' then ask if your racism still sounds OK to you.
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- ornornor 6y agoIt’ll be fine. Switzerland isn’t in the EU and doesn’t have amazon. Instead amazon ships for free from .fr,de,it and include the reduced vat etc so you don’t have anything extra to pay when receiving. Me for returns they cover the actual shipping costs back to their warehouses.
- bbu 6y agoYou left out the part where most items on amazon don’t ship to Switzerland. The probably only item with free shipping is books.
- derriz 6y agoDo you live in Switzerland? Only a fraction of what’s listed on amazon.de or amazon.fr will ship to Switzerland. Pretty much no electronics will ship to for example. The China loop hole was closed recently so that alibaba and the like are now unavailable. Often you just have to suck it up and pay “Swiss” prices from a local reseller.
- corty 6y agoAnd swiss prices are absolutely outrageous. In addition to lots of taxes and duties on certain goods, labour prices in switzerland are sky-high, so visiting a retailer there is usually more expensive than a short shopping trip to France/Germany/Italy...
- ornornor 6y agoI don’t think there is duty on most things. VAT is 7.7%. What jacks up the price is retailers thinking « this is Switzerland, people are used to pay through the nose so why not make an extra 20% » What irks me the most is companies that have no presence in CH but who will ship to CH, and when you go to their website everything is 20–30% more expensive compared to their .de or .fr store (where vat is 20%!). Even though shipping is extra, and it all ships from the same warehouse in Germany or Ireland. Like misterspecs, or revolutioncycles.
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- makomk 6y agoIn this case, I'm not convinced that it's people in the UK in particular who'll have trouble ordering things from Amazon. For historical reasons, the UK has a disproportionate amount of Amazon logistics infrastructure compared to most other EU countries and I think they've even been fulfilling European "sold by Amazon" orders from the UK warehouses. If anything does affect the supply of goods from UK Amazon it's more likely to be disruption of shipping into the warehouses.
- kyriakos 6y agothat made sense while UK was in the EU now amazon may opt to move more operations/warehousing to the rest of the EU to cater for the larger market of the two. either way it doesn't mean UK will not be receiving the same products as before, just in smaller quantities to cover UK-only demand.
- dthul 6y agoThe opposite will be annoying as well: I sometimes order products from non-European companies which use UK sellers as their official resellers for the EU. They will probably need to find new EU resellers outside the UK.
- thirdsun 6y agoYes. Of course the same applies not just to resellers, but also to companies properly located in the UK. I order quite frequently from Rapha and Wiggle and hope they'll have EU-based fulfilling in place.
- thirdsun 6y agoSame here. I order quite frequently from Rapha and Wiggle and hope they'll have EU-based fulfilling in place.
- Zenst 6y agoWhat percentage of those products are made in the EU? Asking as all I've brought has been made elsewhere and imported and wehoused in some EU country as import/duty wise it is one border so once in the EU, it's free to move. Also many things I buy seem to buy from Amazon ship direct from China! But fun times ahead, just remember to laugh ;).