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Is this a real comment, or produced by an AI? I couldn't make sense of it. This is a genuine question.

oldsj 6y ago
I think the cat’s out of the bag now and we really won’t know if we’re reading or responding to an actual human anymore.
- gear54rus 6y ago
  Reading comments on the internet has nothing to do with the test tho. You have to be able to query the agent.
  - andybak 6y ago
    > You have to be able to query the agent. That's what the "reply" button is for.
Don_Patrick 6y ago
I know people who talk like this, and the user history checks out. Either way, the comment is misinforming: Those quotes are from Descartes, not Turing, whose views as to whether machines could think were opposite. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/turing-test https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/turing-test
- zwischenzug 6y ago
  Right: the attribution to Turing felt completely wrong.
zaroth 6y ago
The use of “quoted words” is strong evidence of GPT. It’s very fond of that rhetorical technique.
- rosstex 6y ago
  I'm not sure, my PhD advisor also uses "quoted words" very frequently in her writing. In GPT-3's defense, she is a prolific writer :)
nurettin 6y ago
The whole thing was generated. Any specific reason you couldn't make sense of it? Any non-sequiturs? Would you prefer more monty python references?
- zwischenzug 6y ago
  I honestly can't tell if this was generated or not either. Where does the monty python reference come from? FWIW: - The ab nihilo mention of 'Turing explains' (explains what? where?) feels odd. - The quotes are redundant, but seem designed to make the statement sound weighty. - "It's" is a common grammatical error in corpuses, but not one likely to be made by any kind of practising philosopher. - The concept of "meaning" is one implicitly eschewed by the Turing test, so the discussion of meaning here seems odd. - The comment is circular: unless we build minds, we won't build things that pass the Turing tests, which are minds.
  - nurettin 6y ago
    Well, I will dismiss all the nitpicky npc nonsense here and just repeat myself. Are we trying to build minds? Or is all the effort going into building automated money savers that take away trivial jobs? That is the main point here.

I think the cat’s out of the bag now and we really won’t know if we’re reading or responding to an actual human anymore.

gear54rus 6y ago
Reading comments on the internet has nothing to do with the test tho. You have to be able to query the agent.
- andybak 6y ago
  > You have to be able to query the agent. That's what the "reply" button is for.

Don_Patrick 6y ago

I know people who talk like this, and the user history checks out. Either way, the comment is misinforming: Those quotes are from Descartes, not Turing, whose views as to whether machines could think were opposite. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/turing-test https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/turing-test

zwischenzug 6y ago
Right: the attribution to Turing felt completely wrong.

zaroth 6y ago

The use of “quoted words” is strong evidence of GPT. It’s very fond of that rhetorical technique.

rosstex 6y ago
I'm not sure, my PhD advisor also uses "quoted words" very frequently in her writing. In GPT-3's defense, she is a prolific writer :)

nurettin 6y ago

The whole thing was generated. Any specific reason you couldn't make sense of it? Any non-sequiturs? Would you prefer more monty python references?

zwischenzug 6y ago
I honestly can't tell if this was generated or not either. Where does the monty python reference come from? FWIW: - The ab nihilo mention of 'Turing explains' (explains what? where?) feels odd. - The quotes are redundant, but seem designed to make the statement sound weighty. - "It's" is a common grammatical error in corpuses, but not one likely to be made by any kind of practising philosopher. - The concept of "meaning" is one implicitly eschewed by the Turing test, so the discussion of meaning here seems odd. - The comment is circular: unless we build minds, we won't build things that pass the Turing tests, which are minds.
- nurettin 6y ago
  Well, I will dismiss all the nitpicky npc nonsense here and just repeat myself. Are we trying to build minds? Or is all the effort going into building automated money savers that take away trivial jobs? That is the main point here.