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I agree, but to be fair, that includes many major armies in the world such as western European colonial powers that have track records far worse than the US. I

I agree, but to be fair, that includes many major armies in the world such as western European colonial powers that have track records far worse than the US. I think the idea that militaries are glorified due to a supposed "coolness" factor is disturbing to begin with.

fit2rule 6y ago
There is nobody around today that has a worse record than the US when it comes to unprosecuted war crimes and crimes against humanity. The US military is the #1 cause of death, chaos and mayhem in the world today, without question. Americans forget that they are responsible for the illegal destruction of countless sovereign states in the last 20 years. Literally, 10's of millions of refugees have been unleashed upon the world due to America's callous actions. Iraq lost 5% of its population. European armies are being forced (by their NATO captors) to participate - but nobody has come even anywhere close to the level of evil enacted on the world, as the US and its criminal War Coalition cult, which is recruiting children for its needs today.
- vinay427 6y ago
  > nobody has come even anywhere close to the level of evil enacted on the world, as the US and its criminal War Coalition cult I understand that these actions are incredibly callous, particularly as some of them are ongoing and can be stopped. I'm not trying to make the US look better, but only place it in a global context. All of these atrocities combined still don't seem even even remotely comparable to the atrocities committed by the British, for instance. > European armies are being forced (by their NATO captors) to participate This sounds incredibly misinformed and callous. Have people already forgotten about Libya in 2011, urged by the French utilizing NATO for their own interventionist agenda? Or the expectation among powerful European countries such as Germany and certainly most Eastern European NATO members that the US maintain a presence there? No one is being held captive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_... Or for another example before NATO, the British urged the US to intervene in Iran to protect exploitative British oil interests, starting a cascade of further US intervention in the country succeeding the long cycle of British imperialism there. A very (very) short sampling of the wonders of British colonialism with some sources that provide more context at the end: A large-scale famine in Ireland that could have been prevented, brutal massacres in Kenya to crush uprisings resulting in the detainment without cause of around 80,000 people and the death of tens of thousands that were later covered up by burning their documents, the deindustrialization of some of the most successful economies in the world that were in what is now India (Bengal, etc.) by razing and/or crippling local industries that had developed globally-recognized innovations and forcing them through enslavement and forced labor into inefficient agriculture that partially resulted in famines that killed more than 10 million. https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/famine_01.shtml https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/famine_01.s... https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/aug/18/uncovering-truth-british-empire-caroline-elkins-mau-mau https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/aug/18/uncovering-trut... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atroci...
  - fit2rule 6y ago
    The world TODAY cannot be compared to the world of YESTERDAY in order to justify the crimes against humanity being planned for commission TOMORROW. Ghengis Khan was an ass. Good thing America has a military big enough to fight him, eh? /s Get the point: it is America TODAY who is committing crimes against humanity, as did the Germans of a hundred years ago. It is America TODAY that is participating in the Yemen GENOCIDE - where 10 million people are being starved to death in order to give KSA and Oman the lebensraum they think they need. Who will stand up to this, TODAY? Certainly not the ghosts of our grandfathers, who clearly recognised the need to rise to the challenge of military evil, especially when it is being used to commit crimes against humanity. And, certainly, not any NATO member state that has to pay its fealty to the US' military industrial complex if it wants its sovereignty to remain, relatively, intact.

fit2rule 6y ago

There is nobody around today that has a worse record than the US when it comes to unprosecuted war crimes and crimes against humanity. The US military is the #1 cause of death, chaos and mayhem in the world today, without question. Americans forget that they are responsible for the illegal destruction of countless sovereign states in the last 20 years. Literally, 10's of millions of refugees have been unleashed upon the world due to America's callous actions. Iraq lost 5% of its population. European armies are being forced (by their NATO captors) to participate - but nobody has come even anywhere close to the level of evil enacted on the world, as the US and its criminal War Coalition cult, which is recruiting children for its needs today.

vinay427 6y ago
> nobody has come even anywhere close to the level of evil enacted on the world, as the US and its criminal War Coalition cult I understand that these actions are incredibly callous, particularly as some of them are ongoing and can be stopped. I'm not trying to make the US look better, but only place it in a global context. All of these atrocities combined still don't seem even even remotely comparable to the atrocities committed by the British, for instance. > European armies are being forced (by their NATO captors) to participate This sounds incredibly misinformed and callous. Have people already forgotten about Libya in 2011, urged by the French utilizing NATO for their own interventionist agenda? Or the expectation among powerful European countries such as Germany and certainly most Eastern European NATO members that the US maintain a presence there? No one is being held captive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_... Or for another example before NATO, the British urged the US to intervene in Iran to protect exploitative British oil interests, starting a cascade of further US intervention in the country succeeding the long cycle of British imperialism there. A very (very) short sampling of the wonders of British colonialism with some sources that provide more context at the end: A large-scale famine in Ireland that could have been prevented, brutal massacres in Kenya to crush uprisings resulting in the detainment without cause of around 80,000 people and the death of tens of thousands that were later covered up by burning their documents, the deindustrialization of some of the most successful economies in the world that were in what is now India (Bengal, etc.) by razing and/or crippling local industries that had developed globally-recognized innovations and forcing them through enslavement and forced labor into inefficient agriculture that partially resulted in famines that killed more than 10 million. https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/famine_01.shtml https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/famine_01.s... https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/aug/18/uncovering-truth-british-empire-caroline-elkins-mau-mau https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/aug/18/uncovering-trut... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atroci...
- fit2rule 6y ago
  The world TODAY cannot be compared to the world of YESTERDAY in order to justify the crimes against humanity being planned for commission TOMORROW. Ghengis Khan was an ass. Good thing America has a military big enough to fight him, eh? /s Get the point: it is America TODAY who is committing crimes against humanity, as did the Germans of a hundred years ago. It is America TODAY that is participating in the Yemen GENOCIDE - where 10 million people are being starved to death in order to give KSA and Oman the lebensraum they think they need. Who will stand up to this, TODAY? Certainly not the ghosts of our grandfathers, who clearly recognised the need to rise to the challenge of military evil, especially when it is being used to commit crimes against humanity. And, certainly, not any NATO member state that has to pay its fealty to the US' military industrial complex if it wants its sovereignty to remain, relatively, intact.