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The translation feature that minces x86 to ARM is done. x64 is still in the works.

by rowanG077 6y ago

ineedasername 6y ago
How is the performance?
- geerlingguy 6y ago
  Very slow. Someone I saw on YouTube tested a couple simple platformer. X86 games on the Pi 4 and got 2-4 FPS. But it's neat that it works... there are plenty of simpler enterprise apps that would run just fine without a ton of performance.
- Zenst 6y ago
  Half-life - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM7h1Wv2mCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM7h1Wv2mCY GTA Vice City - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4MUV_9ODS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4MUV_9ODS8 Certainly performance wise - better than expected, but gets down to what DX level the game is using, Rpi's not known for much graphics grunt. Though these two examples running well on the rpi4 with windows 10, better than you'd expect and kinda impressive.
  - rowanG077 6y ago
    And that is all running in software mode. The RPI4 has no working GPU.
    - tyingq 6y ago
      I don't know much about it, so this has me curious. The specs say the BCM2711 has an integrated Videocore VI GPU. Are there just not drivers, or what about it makes it "not working"?
      - my123 6y ago
        Broadcom didn't release GPU documentation yet, with only Mesa being available for now. + developing Windows GPU drivers isn't trivial
        theK 6y ago
        So it works fine with Linux then, yes? :-P
        Const-me 6y ago
        Yes, on Linux it’s good: https://github.com/const-me/Vrmac/ https://github.com/const-me/Vrmac/ Even h264 video acceleration is there: https://github.com/Const-me/Vrmac/tree/master/VrmacVideo https://github.com/Const-me/Vrmac/tree/master/VrmacVideo Too bad h265 hardware decoder doesn’t yet have a V4L2 driver.
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ss3000 6y ago
Curious if you have a source on the x64 part I can read up more about? Mainly wondering if I buy an ARM Windows device today, is it just a matter of upgrading Windows somewhere down the line for x64 support? Or will I have to shell out for brand new hardware?
- rowanG077 6y ago
  It's not clear what the status is. But I doubt that new hardware is required if it releases.

The translation feature that minces x86 to ARM is done. x64 is still in the works.

ineedasername 6y ago

How is the performance?

geerlingguy 6y ago
Very slow. Someone I saw on YouTube tested a couple simple platformer. X86 games on the Pi 4 and got 2-4 FPS. But it's neat that it works... there are plenty of simpler enterprise apps that would run just fine without a ton of performance.
Zenst 6y ago
Half-life - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM7h1Wv2mCY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM7h1Wv2mCY GTA Vice City - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4MUV_9ODS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4MUV_9ODS8 Certainly performance wise - better than expected, but gets down to what DX level the game is using, Rpi's not known for much graphics grunt. Though these two examples running well on the rpi4 with windows 10, better than you'd expect and kinda impressive.
- rowanG077 6y ago
  And that is all running in software mode. The RPI4 has no working GPU.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    I don't know much about it, so this has me curious. The specs say the BCM2711 has an integrated Videocore VI GPU. Are there just not drivers, or what about it makes it "not working"?
    - my123 6y ago
      Broadcom didn't release GPU documentation yet, with only Mesa being available for now. + developing Windows GPU drivers isn't trivial
      - theK 6y ago
        So it works fine with Linux then, yes? :-P
        Const-me 6y ago
        Yes, on Linux it’s good: https://github.com/const-me/Vrmac/ https://github.com/const-me/Vrmac/ Even h264 video acceleration is there: https://github.com/Const-me/Vrmac/tree/master/VrmacVideo https://github.com/Const-me/Vrmac/tree/master/VrmacVideo Too bad h265 hardware decoder doesn’t yet have a V4L2 driver.
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ss3000 6y ago

Curious if you have a source on the x64 part I can read up more about? Mainly wondering if I buy an ARM Windows device today, is it just a matter of upgrading Windows somewhere down the line for x64 support? Or will I have to shell out for brand new hardware?

rowanG077 6y ago
It's not clear what the status is. But I doubt that new hardware is required if it releases.