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We were told to shut up and put away our guns because these things could never happen...
by pravus 6y ago
We were told to shut up and put away our guns because these things could never happen...
- jorblumesea 6y agoWell if you don't use it to defend democratic values then I'd say you don't deserve those guns. The 2nd amendment was literally a hedge against these situations but many of those strong believers in the second amendment are conspicuously absent and probably side with the right wing fascist elements. Unfortunately many if not most gun owners seem to be entirely ok with eroding American democratic values and freedom so long as the other side "gets what's coming to them".
- whatthesmack 6y agoYeah, because we’re tired of mayors and governors letting the real fascists own the streets, causing untold violence and damage. If those folks are breaking the law, it should be no surprise when they’re placed under arrest.
- seiferteric 6y agoGetting really tired of these stupid strawman arguments being used to push an agenda that has nothing to do with current events. Why are you even talking about the 2nd amendment here? Why do you assume people that support the 2nd amendment are all right wing fascists?
- jfengel 6y agoJust out of curiosity, if the next headline is that the protesters have shot back at police or border patrol rather than be shoved into a van, what is your likely response?
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoGun owners are just as likely to be on tyranny's side as against it. If it was truly about freedom and anti-authoritarianism not a single gun rights voter should be for the actions taken by the federal government in Portland. They would be against Trump suggesting to send in the army - in fact, they would show force against these things - not against masks.
- krapp 6y agoBut you didn't. You replied to those people that they could pry your guns from your cold, dead hands and they would be the first against the wall when the revolution came. You told us you and your guns were the only things keeping the only free state in existence truly free. You waxed poetic about watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants. You called anyone who believed in any form of gun control a coward and traitor, clucking with disappointment and condescending to them that "Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a bit of safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." And you were happy to rise up in arms over something as trivial as local quarantine ordinances requiring wearing masks in public or limiting your God given right to go to Applebees' any time you wanted. But when it comes to actual secret police snatching people up off the street into unmarked vans, I guess it's fair game as long as it's "leftists" getting snatched.
- throwaway_USD 6y agoMaybe its not just so much about "allowing" these acts because they are happening to "the other side", but just like most people who talk a big game when push came to shove they found themselves shitting their pants and realizing their worst fears about the government came true and their worst fears about themselves that they are all talk and it was easy to scream give me freedom or give me death until the armed government came for their freedom.
- krapp 6y agoIt seems to be about both. You can find plenty of comments from gun advocates in this thread claiming that these protestors deserve what they get because they're probably anti-gun anyway.
- throwaway_USD 6y agoYeah but you don't know if the posters aren't just trolling, and even if legit gun advocates you can't really expect them to come out and say this is what I always feared and never realized I was just talking shit about what I would do if this happened and surprised to learn I am just a coward that is scared of the government.
- R0b0t1 6y agoThis is more evidence to add to the pile pro-2nd people have to never compromise. The last really bad one was police taking guns from people during Katrina. This is probably far worse. There's no way it is legal, and if it somehow is, it is more evidence of how badly out of touch with reality most judges are.