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this looks amazing! (beware on mobile for giant gif size) SwifUI is a breath of fresh air compared to xcode builder, that giant unmergeable xml and the constra

this looks amazing! (beware on mobile for giant gif size) SwifUI is a breath of fresh air compared to xcode builder, that giant unmergeable xml and the constraint madness where really clumsy to work with.

bsaul 6y ago
Are you using it for actual apps in production ? I'm always very careful whenever apple release new technologies for devs. They promote it heavily but actually nobody uses it inside, and it's up to the community to go through all the bugs.
- jmull 6y ago
  I'm just curious: what are you referring to?
  - bsaul 6y ago
    Core data and swift itself. I've heard from ex apple workers that some team even use their own uikit-like components (table views, scroll views, etc).
- kitsunesoba 6y ago
  > They promote it heavily but actually nobody uses it inside, and it's up to the community to go through all the bugs. Large chunks of macOS 11 and iOS 14 are built with SwiftUI, and it's the only way you can build the newer style of widgets on both platforms. They're actually pretty aggressively dogfooding it. They were slow to pick up Swift internally because they needed ABI stability, but no such barriers exist for internal adoption of SwiftUI.
- ablanco 6y ago
  I'm using it to port an auv3 plugin to a standalone app. The overall experience is amazing when compared to the constraint based method proposed in previous xcode versions. There are parts missing, but it's fairly easy to wrap uikit components and use them in swiftui Overall I think it's a great step forward
hellofunk 6y ago
It's a neat technology but still quite infant. I've heard that it currently takes longer to implement a non-trivial UI due to the compiler errors, documentation gaps, and bugs with the framework. Patience is required.
- pohl 6y ago
  The latest stuff in beta since WWDC makes a world of difference. It’s a joy to play with, and I haven’t encountered any of the impenetrable compiler errors that the last version had.
  - stavarotti 6y ago
    Pohl?

bsaul 6y ago

Are you using it for actual apps in production ? I'm always very careful whenever apple release new technologies for devs. They promote it heavily but actually nobody uses it inside, and it's up to the community to go through all the bugs.

jmull 6y ago
I'm just curious: what are you referring to?
- bsaul 6y ago
  Core data and swift itself. I've heard from ex apple workers that some team even use their own uikit-like components (table views, scroll views, etc).
kitsunesoba 6y ago
> They promote it heavily but actually nobody uses it inside, and it's up to the community to go through all the bugs. Large chunks of macOS 11 and iOS 14 are built with SwiftUI, and it's the only way you can build the newer style of widgets on both platforms. They're actually pretty aggressively dogfooding it. They were slow to pick up Swift internally because they needed ABI stability, but no such barriers exist for internal adoption of SwiftUI.
ablanco 6y ago
I'm using it to port an auv3 plugin to a standalone app. The overall experience is amazing when compared to the constraint based method proposed in previous xcode versions. There are parts missing, but it's fairly easy to wrap uikit components and use them in swiftui Overall I think it's a great step forward

hellofunk 6y ago

It's a neat technology but still quite infant. I've heard that it currently takes longer to implement a non-trivial UI due to the compiler errors, documentation gaps, and bugs with the framework. Patience is required.

pohl 6y ago
The latest stuff in beta since WWDC makes a world of difference. It’s a joy to play with, and I haven’t encountered any of the impenetrable compiler errors that the last version had.
- stavarotti 6y ago
  Pohl?