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You need political will. - Refuse sales of ammunition without proof of gun purchase and registration. - Refuse gun purchase for specific gun types and if a pe
by dmitriid 6y ago
You need political will.
- Refuse sales of ammunition without proof of gun purchase and registration.
- Refuse gun purchase for specific gun types and if a person already has a certain number of guns.
- Mandate and enforce training before gun purchases, with obligatory re-training every X years. Checked at every purchase of ammo and guns. No training, no sale.
- Mandatory licensing for open carry. Mandatory army-level training for concealed carry. With mandatory re-training.
- Buyback and exchange plans for existing weapons.
- Huge fines (not jail time, fines) for non-compliance. Money is a much bigger deterrent than jail time.
- Mirioron 6y agoYou do all this and then find out that gun violence didn't decrease. Everyone will say it worked, but upon closer inspection it is mostly massaged stats. You'll find things like suicides being counted in the statistics for gun violence. Then what? Do you think anyone would be willing to roll back something like this?
- dmitriid 6y agoEurope: 500 million people.
- refurb 6y agoCA has most of these already. They just instituted a requirement for a background check for ammo purchases. One of the biggest problems is your last point - non-compliance isn’t really enforced. If you ask your friend to buy a gun for you because you’re not eligible, the dealer might stop the transaction, but there is a very low likelihood there will be any police follow up.
- agensaequivocum 6y agoThat is a federal crime and there are absolutely cases that have been prosecuted. I would not mess around with the ATF.
- refurb 6y agoIt is a federal law and occasionally they prosecute the most egregious examples, but I've heard from many gun dealers that when they suspect a straw purchase and report it, the ATF follows up maybe 1% of the time.
- agensaequivocum 6y agoOr when both parties passed the background check. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramski_v._United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramski_v._United_States
- refurb 6y agoJeeze, they even went after a former police officer? Not saying former cops should get a pass, but you’d think they’d try and make an example out of someone involved in a criminal operation. The ATF/DOJ loves to make examples out of people even when the case is pretty weak.
- jon-wood 6y agoThe first point is the key one, but I’d go further, no ammunition sales without passing the new regulations on gun ownership. You can keep your gun, and any ammo you have now, but no reloads until you’re properly authenticated.
- dmitriid 6y agoYes, I was thinking the same, too
- agensaequivocum 6y agoAll of that is repugnant to the constitution and our natural rights. It will also do nothing to stop violence. One comment regarding the term "Buyback", the government never owned them they can not "buy" them back. It is simply a euphemism for confiscation. Moreover, you can go to pretty much any gun shop or pawnshop to sell a gun you do not want.
- dmitriid 6y ago> All of that is repugnant to the constitution and our natural rights. It will also do nothing to stop violence. Ahahahha what