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Developers aren't invited to those meetings.
by perl4ever 6y ago
Developers aren't invited to those meetings.
- MattGaiser 6y agoExactly.
- perl4ever 6y ago...but I'm not a developer.
- MattGaiser 6y agoHave fun in your meetings.
- TeMPOraL 6y agoYou actually want to be on those, because that's where half of the nonsense comes from that you then have to deal with on the job.
- duncan_bayne 6y agoTrue client story, heavily anonymised: I was representing my client at a meeting with a third party with which they were planning to integrate. Financial systems and many zeroes were involved. It became apparent early in the call that although we were talking in some detail about integrating two complex and complicated systems, no-one on the call was a developer (except myself, lapsed). It had never occurred to me that the powers that be might do that. Next time (and from then on) there were developers involved, at least from our side.
- tomelders 6y agoManagers just want to be able to make software without those pesky developers getting in the way.
- chiefalchemist 6y agoClassic. Yet when projects fail it's IT that gets the blame. Not to say IT is without fault sometimes. But IT based projects fail because everyone else failed to acknowledge it was an IT project. Effectively talking when they should have been listening.
- MattGaiser 6y agoYou missed a big opportunity to create your own “Project Rescue” outfit for when the project inevitably fell apart.
- MattGaiser 6y agoIt depends. I can see myself getting exhausted of arguing and explaining and then having to deal with it anyway.
- hoorayimhelping 6y agoEngineers: >what are these requirements? Where the hell does product come up with this crap? This is so unrealistic and just explaining why will take 15 minutes! What is the deal, why can't we just get aligned? Product is so stupid. Also engineers: >have fun in your product only meeting, dorks. I'm a programmer, and we HATE meetings cause of programming and stuff.