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I read a lot of people's experiences here in the thread and I think a lot of you really should give YouTube Premium a try. It solves most of the problems you ar

I read a lot of people's experiences here in the thread and I think a lot of you really should give YouTube Premium a try. It solves most of the problems you are describing, while also paying the creators

marvion 6y ago
This. If your problem are ads, background-playing and download - then just go with premium. I do understand that some apps provide extra features etc. but premium removes ads cross-platform... and since GoogleMusic is included, it replaces Spotify as well(yes, it's different..).
- zbrozek 6y ago
  I think this app caters to a different set of needs. Personally I find the official YouTube app noisy and pushy and offensive. Autoplay and PIP are anti-features I want to avoid. Recommendations are also unwanted. This alternative looks great to me, on paper at least. I'll give it a go.
  - harshitaneja 6y ago
    Autoplay and PIP can be turned off in settings. PIP is one of the reasons I got premium initially but the ad free experience on all devices is what made me stay.
    - zbrozek 6y ago
      Defaults matter. I have a lot of devices and I can't be bothered to make every app less awful on every one of them every few months. It's far easier to opt out of the app entirely.
      - halflings 6y ago
        It's likely that most uses actually enjoy autoplay and PIP (I certainly do). You're saying that you don't pay for Premium and use an unofficial client that does not pay content creators just because it's too much of a hassle to change the two settings that bother you.
- MayeulC 6y ago
  Discarding the other reasons (one of them is I only use FOSS on my phone), it wouldn't be worth it for my very occasional use of YouTube...
- turrini 6y ago
  Well, I'm a paying user (YT premium) but I like features, so I'm using NewPipe.
valvar 6y ago
Sure, if you don't care about free software or privacy.
- rsa25519 6y ago
  Free as in beer, or free as in speech? YouTube is a closed platform (server-side), so I personally don't see much moral use of using a libre client. And I understand wanting a gratis client. To what extent does the cost of YouTube Premium pay for the client versus the creators? Out of curiosity, if there were a private (but neither libre nor gratis) YouTube Premium client, would you use it?
  - icebraining 6y ago
    > YouTube is a closed platform (server-side), so I personally don't see much moral use of using a libre client. How come? If someone sends me an email to my FOSS server, which I open with my FOSS client, I don't care if the server they used to send me is FOSS or not. If YouTube is just sending me data (not running their code on my machines), why should I care what they run? In any case, to use YouTube Premium you have to login, and therefore have all your viewings tracked. Being able to have subscriptions, etc while avoiding having to login is one of the great features of NewPipe.
    - deadmutex 6y ago
      > In any case, to use YouTube Premium you have to login, and therefore have all your viewings tracked. My understanding is that you can pause watch history, see link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzY79vqPrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzY79vqPrk
      - reificator 6y ago
        I would assume that stops you from getting any value out of your history, but does not significantly hamper Google's tracking.
degraafc 6y ago
I would, but Google disabled my YT account with no reasoning or explanation. So now I'm a bit hesitant to pay for their services on another account...
- milkytron 6y ago
  Similarly, I cannot log into my YouTube account on some devices. I can log in to my Google account, but it doesn't have the same subscriptions, likes, watch history, etc. On other devices, if I log in with my Google account it logs into my YouYube account, which has what I need. The two accounts must have been synced at some point, but I can't always access the original YT account, which sucks.

marvion 6y ago

This. If your problem are ads, background-playing and download - then just go with premium. I do understand that some apps provide extra features etc. but premium removes ads cross-platform... and since GoogleMusic is included, it replaces Spotify as well(yes, it's different..).

zbrozek 6y ago
I think this app caters to a different set of needs. Personally I find the official YouTube app noisy and pushy and offensive. Autoplay and PIP are anti-features I want to avoid. Recommendations are also unwanted. This alternative looks great to me, on paper at least. I'll give it a go.
- harshitaneja 6y ago
  Autoplay and PIP can be turned off in settings. PIP is one of the reasons I got premium initially but the ad free experience on all devices is what made me stay.
  - zbrozek 6y ago
    Defaults matter. I have a lot of devices and I can't be bothered to make every app less awful on every one of them every few months. It's far easier to opt out of the app entirely.
    - halflings 6y ago
      It's likely that most uses actually enjoy autoplay and PIP (I certainly do). You're saying that you don't pay for Premium and use an unofficial client that does not pay content creators just because it's too much of a hassle to change the two settings that bother you.
MayeulC 6y ago
Discarding the other reasons (one of them is I only use FOSS on my phone), it wouldn't be worth it for my very occasional use of YouTube...
turrini 6y ago
Well, I'm a paying user (YT premium) but I like features, so I'm using NewPipe.

valvar 6y ago

Sure, if you don't care about free software or privacy.

rsa25519 6y ago
Free as in beer, or free as in speech? YouTube is a closed platform (server-side), so I personally don't see much moral use of using a libre client. And I understand wanting a gratis client. To what extent does the cost of YouTube Premium pay for the client versus the creators? Out of curiosity, if there were a private (but neither libre nor gratis) YouTube Premium client, would you use it?
- icebraining 6y ago
  > YouTube is a closed platform (server-side), so I personally don't see much moral use of using a libre client. How come? If someone sends me an email to my FOSS server, which I open with my FOSS client, I don't care if the server they used to send me is FOSS or not. If YouTube is just sending me data (not running their code on my machines), why should I care what they run? In any case, to use YouTube Premium you have to login, and therefore have all your viewings tracked. Being able to have subscriptions, etc while avoiding having to login is one of the great features of NewPipe.
  - deadmutex 6y ago
    > In any case, to use YouTube Premium you have to login, and therefore have all your viewings tracked. My understanding is that you can pause watch history, see link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzY79vqPrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzY79vqPrk
    - reificator 6y ago
      I would assume that stops you from getting any value out of your history, but does not significantly hamper Google's tracking.

degraafc 6y ago

I would, but Google disabled my YT account with no reasoning or explanation. So now I'm a bit hesitant to pay for their services on another account...

milkytron 6y ago
Similarly, I cannot log into my YouTube account on some devices. I can log in to my Google account, but it doesn't have the same subscriptions, likes, watch history, etc. On other devices, if I log in with my Google account it logs into my YouYube account, which has what I need. The two accounts must have been synced at some point, but I can't always access the original YT account, which sucks.