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Um. Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. >(and you can choose whether to download them as audio files) Videos with sti

Um. Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. >(and you can choose whether to download them as audio files) Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone.

noarchy 6y ago
>Um. Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? >Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. That is definitely an option, but people who use things like youtube-dl or apps like NewPipe probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium. >Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone. Part of the point is if you never intend to watch the content, but only want to listen to it, there's no point to having video.
- drbacon 6y ago
  > Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? Of course. > ...probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium. True. It's unclear if OP fits that description though. Re-read OP's comment. > ...there's no point to having video. Agreed. I think it most cases, there is no video for still image YouTube content. Just, you know, a still image. I don't know the extent this is true, nor do I know OP's use case. Assuming that OP is interested in music, the video component shouldn't be a real issue. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6007071?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6007071?hl=en
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  > Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? It's to add condescension.
  - drbacon 6y ago
    Yes. That is true too. :)
  - noarchy 6y ago
    >It's to add condescension. That was my assumption. Things like "um" and "uh" tend to be silence-fillers, among other things (see below). It's weird to see them being typed-out, and I've noted an uptick in how often I see it being done. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_disfluency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_disfluency
    - hombre_fatal 6y ago
      > I've noted an uptick in how often I see it being done Yep. There's something about internet culture that rots our ability to have conversations with others. It's something I've also noticed in myself (it's easy to complain about everyone else) as someone who, sheepishly, has snuck in a juvenile "Um..." when I think I've really got'em good. I suspect the uptick in just this sort of rot going mainstream. Like instead of bringing your in-person social skills online when the internet was newer, and then becoming corrupted over time, people are just born into the rot from a young age. And frankly it takes eternal vigilance to stay a noncombative and fair online.
Latty 6y ago
The official app doesn't support 3x speed playback.
- 0-_-0 6y ago
  My brain doesn't either :)
  - leppr 6y ago
    Many (most?) vision impaired people can.
    - ferzul 6y ago
      i was once told vision impared people can do much faster than that if it's a flat computerised voice. so i started reading articles like that for a while. i had to do a bunch of manual/automatic handling, but i got it up to super fast speeds and i could read it thrice in less than the time it took to read it once. not bad!
  - Latty 6y ago
    Hah, it depends on the video/podcast I'm watching/listening to for sure, but sometimes 2.5x/3x is very nice. I think I sort of built it up over time though, I remember not being able to do 2x previously because it seemed to fast, but I guess I got used to it.
    - 0-_-0 6y ago
      I can barely do 2x, I should practice then! Depends a lot on the speaker too.
anoncake 6y ago
What can Google's app do what NewPipe can't?
- jimlikeslimes 6y ago
  Download a playlist to listen offline without having to download each song individually/manually :) Edit: I'm a very, very happy new pipe user, this is literally the one feature I'm waiting for. And there is a GitHub issue being worked on for it.
- drbacon 6y ago
  I don't know what all NewPipe or Vanced can do, and I don't know what all YouTube's apps can do. I mostly indicated that OP's desired features were covered by the official app (without possibly downloading the audio track from a video file). I'm certainly not making an argument that NewPipe is any better or worse.
- datagram 6y ago
  Support content creators? It seems like NewPipe can't even add an option to enable ads because third-party ads are against F-Droid policy.
  - heinrich5991 6y ago
    I think you're allowed to do third party ads (as long you can display them without running proprietrary code...).
- on_and_off 6y ago
  support the creators
  - anoncake 6y ago
    You mean "expose the user to emotional manipulation through ads. That is not a feature, unless it's opt-in. A donation button or something like that would be.

noarchy 6y ago

>Um. Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? >Consider the Official YouTube app, with a paid YouTube Premium subscription. That is definitely an option, but people who use things like youtube-dl or apps like NewPipe probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium. >Videos with still images (many songs) shouldn't be much data at all over the audio alone. Part of the point is if you never intend to watch the content, but only want to listen to it, there's no point to having video.

drbacon 6y ago
> Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? Of course. > ...probably aren't in the target audience for YouTube Premium. True. It's unclear if OP fits that description though. Re-read OP's comment. > ...there's no point to having video. Agreed. I think it most cases, there is no video for still image YouTube content. Just, you know, a still image. I don't know the extent this is true, nor do I know OP's use case. Assuming that OP is interested in music, the video component shouldn't be a real issue. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6007071?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6007071?hl=en
hombre_fatal 6y ago
> Nit: Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Is this an attempt to mimic how you speak aloud? It's to add condescension.
- drbacon 6y ago
  Yes. That is true too. :)
- noarchy 6y ago
  >It's to add condescension. That was my assumption. Things like "um" and "uh" tend to be silence-fillers, among other things (see below). It's weird to see them being typed-out, and I've noted an uptick in how often I see it being done. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_disfluency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_disfluency
  - hombre_fatal 6y ago
    > I've noted an uptick in how often I see it being done Yep. There's something about internet culture that rots our ability to have conversations with others. It's something I've also noticed in myself (it's easy to complain about everyone else) as someone who, sheepishly, has snuck in a juvenile "Um..." when I think I've really got'em good. I suspect the uptick in just this sort of rot going mainstream. Like instead of bringing your in-person social skills online when the internet was newer, and then becoming corrupted over time, people are just born into the rot from a young age. And frankly it takes eternal vigilance to stay a noncombative and fair online.

Latty 6y ago

The official app doesn't support 3x speed playback.

0-_-0 6y ago
My brain doesn't either :)
- leppr 6y ago
  Many (most?) vision impaired people can.
  - ferzul 6y ago
    i was once told vision impared people can do much faster than that if it's a flat computerised voice. so i started reading articles like that for a while. i had to do a bunch of manual/automatic handling, but i got it up to super fast speeds and i could read it thrice in less than the time it took to read it once. not bad!
- Latty 6y ago
  Hah, it depends on the video/podcast I'm watching/listening to for sure, but sometimes 2.5x/3x is very nice. I think I sort of built it up over time though, I remember not being able to do 2x previously because it seemed to fast, but I guess I got used to it.
  - 0-_-0 6y ago
    I can barely do 2x, I should practice then! Depends a lot on the speaker too.

anoncake 6y ago

What can Google's app do what NewPipe can't?

jimlikeslimes 6y ago
Download a playlist to listen offline without having to download each song individually/manually :) Edit: I'm a very, very happy new pipe user, this is literally the one feature I'm waiting for. And there is a GitHub issue being worked on for it.
drbacon 6y ago
I don't know what all NewPipe or Vanced can do, and I don't know what all YouTube's apps can do. I mostly indicated that OP's desired features were covered by the official app (without possibly downloading the audio track from a video file). I'm certainly not making an argument that NewPipe is any better or worse.
datagram 6y ago
Support content creators? It seems like NewPipe can't even add an option to enable ads because third-party ads are against F-Droid policy.
- heinrich5991 6y ago
  I think you're allowed to do third party ads (as long you can display them without running proprietrary code...).
on_and_off 6y ago
support the creators
- anoncake 6y ago
  You mean "expose the user to emotional manipulation through ads. That is not a feature, unless it's opt-in. A donation button or something like that would be.