> so I have no idea how they always manage to looks so good in the corruption statistics. It's all about definition of corruption isn't it? In European politi

> so I have no idea how they always manage to looks so good in the corruption statistics. It's all about definition of corruption isn't it? In European politics and press we describe "outright deliberate corruption" with innocent deceiving descriptions such as "lobbying" and "failed government IT projects". Is Northern Europe less corrupt than the South? Or is the Northern corruption just more institutionalized (aka: more competent at corruption)? I wouldn't know where to start to get an answer to that. Is it corruption if the public never finds out?