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My wife is a nurse at a large hospital (in the northeast) and as of the other day they were down to 1 covid patient. She's seeing nurses actually get laid off b
by jb775 6y ago
My wife is a nurse at a large hospital (in the northeast) and as of the other day they were down to 1 covid patient. She's seeing nurses actually get laid off because the hospitals initially planned for a large influx of covid patients that never came.
Hospitals initially cancelled most elective procedures (which is what pays the hospital's bills), which helps explain why hospitals are more likely to flag a death as "covid-related", so they can collect federal covid money to make up lost revenue.
Also, picking up extra shifts isn't the same thing as a "massive bonus"....and "travel nursing" (where they pay for housing) has always paid a lot of money, even before the pandemic.
- throwaway5752 6y agoThe northeast had to plan for a wide range of outcomes because of the uncontrolled covid outbreak that killed tens of thousands. The excess death rate tells the story and lots more people died than the baseline rate from prior years (on top of major decreases across other categories of mortality). The same is happening in Florida: many more people are dying than expected right now for _some reason_. It's reasonable to think it's covid, and all of the reports of ICUs nearing or hitting capacity due to covid cases is pretty hard to square with any other explanation. At a policy level, the NY/NJ/CT area stopped its outbreak with a strong regionally coordinated response that Florida has notably not done.
- jb775 6y ago> the reports of ICUs nearing or hitting capacity due to covid cases This is the key takeaway here. You're taking the "reports" fed to you at face-value when you don't have all the relevant information. If 10% of beds in a given hospital are listed as "available for use", and all 10% are accounted for, a hospital can claim they are at 100% capacity. This statistic-manipulation is not only being done with hospital capacity numbers, but also with covid test numbers, and covid death numbers. Statistics have been messed with like this throughout history. Wake up people.
- s1artibartfast 6y agoIf you have any good sources on excess deaths, can you share them. My understanding is that it is difficult to separate Covid deaths from mass deaths caused by hospitals shutdowns and fear of hospitals.
- thebruce87m 6y agohttps://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/07/15/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/07/15/tracking...
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- arronkau 6y agoHere's the CDC's data on this. You can download as a CSV for more details. (This is only for the US.) https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm