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Okay a serious question for the people who saw this news and thought it was a bad thing: what do you think should happen? Everybody HAS to have antibodies for

by blhack 6y ago

Okay a serious question for the people who saw this news and thought it was a bad thing: what do you think should happen? Everybody HAS to have antibodies for this eventually. There is no way around that at this point. If Florida truly has 30% infection among children, that is FANTASTIC news. To those who think they can wait it out until a vaccine, how long will you wait? All of the measures we are taking: masks, distancing, WFH, these are meant to slow down the rate of infection, not end it. If this statistic can be extrapolated to the entire population: GREAT. We need to study what Florida is doing and replicate it.

whymauri 6y ago
>All of the measures we are taking: masks, distancing, WFH, these are meant to slow down the rate of infection, not end it. That's just not true. There are safety measures than can absolutely stop the spread of infection and given the chronology of a vaccine or treatment, even a slowdown of infections will save lives and prevent more infections. This is much is glaringly obvious. Also, "what Florida is doing" is literally nothing. That's the problem.
ummonk 6y ago
Given that immunity disappears in a significant proportion of exposed people after a few months, natural herd immunity might be impossible.
gdubs 6y ago
The more logical explanation is that these numbers reflect a dramatic deficit in testing, rather than 1/3 of kids actually having it. We also have no idea what the long term effects are for asymptomatic patients, not a good sense of how effectively the disease transmits asymptomatically. Nor a sense of how long immunity lasts. An abundance of caution is warranted.
II2II 6y ago
> All of the measures we are taking: masks, distancing, WFH, these are meant to slow down the rate of infection, not end it. They are meant to slow down the rate of infection for two reasons: 1. A certain portion of the infected population will need treatment in order to recover. The health care system will be unable to provide that treatment if they have to deal with a large number of cases in a short period of time. 2. To buy time until a vaccine is available. Even with better treatments and a manageable rate of infection, the mortality rate is relatively high. Vaccination is the only effective way to reduce that. Also consider this: even if the virus is permitted to run wild, the infection rate will eventually slow (assuming that people retain immunity and the virus does not mutate). It will be a prolonged problem no matter how you look at it.
_ph_ 6y ago
If the number of 30% infected children is true, it most of all means, that there is a huge number of infected adults and a large death toll is to be infected. Herd immunity (if there is such a thing with Covid-19) would be great, but the huge problem with that concept is, it can be achieved only by an enormous amounts of deaths, which are preventable.

by blhack 6y ago

whymauri 6y ago

>All of the measures we are taking: masks, distancing, WFH, these are meant to slow down the rate of infection, not end it. That's just not true. There are safety measures than can absolutely stop the spread of infection and given the chronology of a vaccine or treatment, even a slowdown of infections will save lives and prevent more infections. This is much is glaringly obvious. Also, "what Florida is doing" is literally nothing. That's the problem.

ummonk 6y ago

Given that immunity disappears in a significant proportion of exposed people after a few months, natural herd immunity might be impossible.

gdubs 6y ago

The more logical explanation is that these numbers reflect a dramatic deficit in testing, rather than 1/3 of kids actually having it. We also have no idea what the long term effects are for asymptomatic patients, not a good sense of how effectively the disease transmits asymptomatically. Nor a sense of how long immunity lasts. An abundance of caution is warranted.

II2II 6y ago

> All of the measures we are taking: masks, distancing, WFH, these are meant to slow down the rate of infection, not end it. They are meant to slow down the rate of infection for two reasons: 1. A certain portion of the infected population will need treatment in order to recover. The health care system will be unable to provide that treatment if they have to deal with a large number of cases in a short period of time. 2. To buy time until a vaccine is available. Even with better treatments and a manageable rate of infection, the mortality rate is relatively high. Vaccination is the only effective way to reduce that. Also consider this: even if the virus is permitted to run wild, the infection rate will eventually slow (assuming that people retain immunity and the virus does not mutate). It will be a prolonged problem no matter how you look at it.

_ph_ 6y ago

If the number of 30% infected children is true, it most of all means, that there is a huge number of infected adults and a large death toll is to be infected. Herd immunity (if there is such a thing with Covid-19) would be great, but the huge problem with that concept is, it can be achieved only by an enormous amounts of deaths, which are preventable.