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Half of HN personally responsible for doing exactly this kind of thing for a living, shifting in their chair uncomfortably... I umm... just doing my job...

catacombs 6y ago
Nailed it.
hairofadog 6y ago
I had a conversation with an exec at a company I worked for in which they expressed pride that our website doesn't track users like those other sites, and I had to break it to them that we heavily used and relied upon every Google ad and analytics product (the latter of which they were obsessed with) and had Facebook "Like" buttons all over the place. It's easy to go about your daily work and forget about the ways in which you're opted into various data-collection frameworks. Regarding comments pointing out the Facebook integration on Medium, I think it's okay for people to criticize a system from within the system.
- hkt 6y ago
  > I think it's okay for people to criticize a system from within the system. Amen: there'd be virtually no critics left if people couldn't.
Kaze404 6y ago
Reminds me of that comic. "Maybe we should improve the world somewhat".
- npteljes 6y ago
  For the curious: https://i0.wp.com/thenib.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa-1.jpg https://i0.wp.com/thenib.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mist...
ProAm 6y ago
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -Upton Sinclair
wackget 6y ago
That's not really an excuse. A developer might be asked to implement Facebook tracking code, but a conscientious developer will ensure the browser's "Do Not Track" setting is respected. It's as simple as: if (!navigator.doNotTrack) { // Tracking code }
- npteljes 6y ago
  It's not this simple when managements explicitly asks you not to do this, and takes it as sabotage if you still do it.
- Kaze404 6y ago
  Unfortunately enabling Do Not Track just makes you more easily trackable.
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catacombs 6y ago

Nailed it.

hairofadog 6y ago

I had a conversation with an exec at a company I worked for in which they expressed pride that our website doesn't track users like those other sites, and I had to break it to them that we heavily used and relied upon every Google ad and analytics product (the latter of which they were obsessed with) and had Facebook "Like" buttons all over the place. It's easy to go about your daily work and forget about the ways in which you're opted into various data-collection frameworks. Regarding comments pointing out the Facebook integration on Medium, I think it's okay for people to criticize a system from within the system.

hkt 6y ago
> I think it's okay for people to criticize a system from within the system. Amen: there'd be virtually no critics left if people couldn't.

Kaze404 6y ago

Reminds me of that comic. "Maybe we should improve the world somewhat".

npteljes 6y ago
For the curious: https://i0.wp.com/thenib.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa-1.jpg https://i0.wp.com/thenib.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mist...

ProAm 6y ago

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -Upton Sinclair

wackget 6y ago

That's not really an excuse. A developer might be asked to implement Facebook tracking code, but a conscientious developer will ensure the browser's "Do Not Track" setting is respected. It's as simple as: if (!navigator.doNotTrack) { // Tracking code }

npteljes 6y ago
It's not this simple when managements explicitly asks you not to do this, and takes it as sabotage if you still do it.
Kaze404 6y ago
Unfortunately enabling Do Not Track just makes you more easily trackable.

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