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>may be far worse than the consequences of reopening. Let's be perfectly clear, this isn't something abstract. The consequences are dead kids and dead teachers

>may be far worse than the consequences of reopening. Let's be perfectly clear, this isn't something abstract. The consequences are dead kids and dead teachers. Get that through your head. You of course imagine it won't be your kids that die but there's absolutely no reason to think that.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> Let's be perfectly clear, this isn't something abstract. The consequences are dead kids Yes, the serious risk of increases in childhood “morbidity and mortality” if schools remain closed are exactly what the American Academy of Pediatrics cited as a key consideration when strongly urging that planning center on a return to in-person schooling with the start of the coming school year.
- devalgo 6y ago
  Appeal to authority, not a real argument.
  - dx87 6y ago
    Appeal to fallacy, not a real argument.
    - devalgo 6y ago
      Appeal to fallacy, not a real argument. Its fallacies all the way down.
  - AlexandrB 6y ago
    The counterargument doesn't even bother to appeal to a (relevant) authority - it just says "but muh economy :'(" I'm not sure why this is valid response.
- glitcher 6y ago
  Yes, and then the American Academy of Pediatrics announced a revised statement that included: "Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it." Bottom line IMO is that these decisions need to be made locally. There is no one-size-fits-all for schools across the country. And sadly there will also be other significant negative consequences for some kids who can't go back to school yet. We should be attacking these issues on multiple fronts with multiple strategies, using strong leadership, increased funding, and careful planning instead of rushing into a situation we are unprepared for.
ryandrake 6y ago
Not to mention dead family members these teachers and kids will bring the disease back to. Maybe it won't get through people's thick skulls until we start making school yearbooks have obituary sections.
dv_dt 6y ago
Dead parents too, because even if the kids don't die from at the same rate, they can and will spread the disease.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> Let's be perfectly clear, this isn't something abstract. The consequences are dead kids Yes, the serious risk of increases in childhood “morbidity and mortality” if schools remain closed are exactly what the American Academy of Pediatrics cited as a key consideration when strongly urging that planning center on a return to in-person schooling with the start of the coming school year.

devalgo 6y ago
Appeal to authority, not a real argument.
- dx87 6y ago
  Appeal to fallacy, not a real argument.
  - devalgo 6y ago
    Appeal to fallacy, not a real argument. Its fallacies all the way down.
- AlexandrB 6y ago
  The counterargument doesn't even bother to appeal to a (relevant) authority - it just says "but muh economy :'(" I'm not sure why this is valid response.
glitcher 6y ago
Yes, and then the American Academy of Pediatrics announced a revised statement that included: "Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it." Bottom line IMO is that these decisions need to be made locally. There is no one-size-fits-all for schools across the country. And sadly there will also be other significant negative consequences for some kids who can't go back to school yet. We should be attacking these issues on multiple fronts with multiple strategies, using strong leadership, increased funding, and careful planning instead of rushing into a situation we are unprepared for.

ryandrake 6y ago

Not to mention dead family members these teachers and kids will bring the disease back to. Maybe it won't get through people's thick skulls until we start making school yearbooks have obituary sections.

dv_dt 6y ago

Dead parents too, because even if the kids don't die from at the same rate, they can and will spread the disease.