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>No. The danger is not overblown. Ok not for you but at least for me and whole lot other people consider the risk be overblown. >New teachers just don’t appea

by matz1 6y ago

>No. The danger is not overblown. Ok not for you but at least for me and whole lot other people consider the risk be overblown. >New teachers just don’t appear out of the woodworks, it takes time to be trained This assume there are more teacher who are afraid than not. If there is truly lack of teacher then there are plenty of ways to urge them to work, such as giving more benefit.

lm28469 6y ago
> Ok not for you but at least for me and whole lot other people consider the risk be overblown. Funny to think that this is exactly the mental state that put the US at the top of the worsts countries in term of coronavirus response. Six months in and "it's just the flu bro" is still going strong, humans are weird.
- matz1 6y ago
  I agree the US government response is really disappointing, they should have just reopen everything now. I'm not saying that there nothing should be done regarding this virus. The vaccine research still have to continue, treatment research still have to continue, increase medical capacity(if needed) still have to be done. What I'm against is this lockdown/restriction and this fear mongering because the damage it cause is more than the virus. >Six months in and "it's just the flu bro" is still going strong, humans are weird I'm not saying its just flu, I'm saying the risk of this virus is very low. The data clearly shown that for majority of cases it either asymptotic or only mild symptom. Would there be risk of death due or long term damage to his virus ? of course, any diseases could cause that but the risk is low.
  - lm28469 6y ago
    > I'm saying the risk is very low. The data clearly shown that for majority of cases it either asymptotic or only mild symptom. The data also shows that 140k Americans died (probably many more if you take into account the excess deaths that have been recorded but haven't been linked to covid yet) and many more will suffer long term side effects. The data also shows that Europeans countries almost completely curbed the epidemic and can _safely_ and _slowly_ reopen because they went through a real lock down. If anything the data clearly shows that reopening anything in the US right now is suicide for thousands of people. This situation will be a literal text book example of how to completely fail at handling an epidemic for the centuries to come, it would be comical if it wasn't for all the preventable deaths and suffering.
    - matz1 6y ago
      So only 140k died (0.04%) and with now with the death rate that is going down, its a good news, even more reason to reopen as soon as possible.
      - burner831234 6y ago
        Amazing for someone to write off 140k deaths. Only 58,000 died in Vietnam. Thats literally in and out of "theaters of war". 1900 died in the Gulf war and those are ppl who "signed up for it". So, only 140k died. Callous AF.
        matz1 6y ago
        Because its not worth it to make millions other people suffer due to lockdown.
        pqhwan 6y ago
        I’m sorry, but of all the things I’ve read on HN regarding this pandemic, your lack of empathy truly stands out. Of the “millions other people” you mentioned, there are two types: those who feel a sense of duty to bear their share of burden to stop this virus from taking (complete strangers’) lives, and those who reject that notion, eagerly treating those lives, and the lives of people who would grieve their losses, as statistics to be put on scale with profit and growth for a quick decision. I’m not saying that people in the latter invented that scale; that scale is indeed a fact of life. But when I think of my own experience of loss, I cannot imagine that those who tout the balance of this scale as the sole reason for policy decisions understand the weight of a lost life.
        matz1 6y ago
        Of course i understand it can be tragic for some people to loss life due to this virus but I also understand to achieve near 0 death will also incur high cost. >your lack of empathy truly stands out. I disagree, I sympathize those millions who suffer due to the lockdown. Their suffering is real as well.

by matz1 6y ago

lm28469 6y ago

> Ok not for you but at least for me and whole lot other people consider the risk be overblown. Funny to think that this is exactly the mental state that put the US at the top of the worsts countries in term of coronavirus response. Six months in and "it's just the flu bro" is still going strong, humans are weird.

matz1 6y ago
I agree the US government response is really disappointing, they should have just reopen everything now. I'm not saying that there nothing should be done regarding this virus. The vaccine research still have to continue, treatment research still have to continue, increase medical capacity(if needed) still have to be done. What I'm against is this lockdown/restriction and this fear mongering because the damage it cause is more than the virus. >Six months in and "it's just the flu bro" is still going strong, humans are weird I'm not saying its just flu, I'm saying the risk of this virus is very low. The data clearly shown that for majority of cases it either asymptotic or only mild symptom. Would there be risk of death due or long term damage to his virus ? of course, any diseases could cause that but the risk is low.
- lm28469 6y ago
  > I'm saying the risk is very low. The data clearly shown that for majority of cases it either asymptotic or only mild symptom. The data also shows that 140k Americans died (probably many more if you take into account the excess deaths that have been recorded but haven't been linked to covid yet) and many more will suffer long term side effects. The data also shows that Europeans countries almost completely curbed the epidemic and can _safely_ and _slowly_ reopen because they went through a real lock down. If anything the data clearly shows that reopening anything in the US right now is suicide for thousands of people. This situation will be a literal text book example of how to completely fail at handling an epidemic for the centuries to come, it would be comical if it wasn't for all the preventable deaths and suffering.
  - matz1 6y ago
    So only 140k died (0.04%) and with now with the death rate that is going down, its a good news, even more reason to reopen as soon as possible.
    - burner831234 6y ago
      Amazing for someone to write off 140k deaths. Only 58,000 died in Vietnam. Thats literally in and out of "theaters of war". 1900 died in the Gulf war and those are ppl who "signed up for it". So, only 140k died. Callous AF.
      - matz1 6y ago
        Because its not worth it to make millions other people suffer due to lockdown.
        pqhwan 6y ago
        I’m sorry, but of all the things I’ve read on HN regarding this pandemic, your lack of empathy truly stands out. Of the “millions other people” you mentioned, there are two types: those who feel a sense of duty to bear their share of burden to stop this virus from taking (complete strangers’) lives, and those who reject that notion, eagerly treating those lives, and the lives of people who would grieve their losses, as statistics to be put on scale with profit and growth for a quick decision. I’m not saying that people in the latter invented that scale; that scale is indeed a fact of life. But when I think of my own experience of loss, I cannot imagine that those who tout the balance of this scale as the sole reason for policy decisions understand the weight of a lost life.
        matz1 6y ago
        Of course i understand it can be tragic for some people to loss life due to this virus but I also understand to achieve near 0 death will also incur high cost. >your lack of empathy truly stands out. I disagree, I sympathize those millions who suffer due to the lockdown. Their suffering is real as well.