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Short summary in english of the contents of the spiegel article: Four Hessian tax investigators noted many problems. Their employer (the state of Hessen) got t
by ketzu 6y ago
Short summary in english of the contents of the spiegel article:
Four Hessian tax investigators noted many problems.
Their employer (the state of Hessen) got them psychiatricly examined. The examiner found them "paranoid troublemaking" and that they lost their sense for reality.
Therefore, they got diagnosed as permanently unable to work and pensioned.
According to the wikipedia article the psychiatrist has to pay the four people 226.000€ as compensation for reduced income.
- pkaye 6y agoCould the employees have requested a second opinion from another psychiatrist not connected to their employer?
- ketzu 6y agoAccording to the article by Spiegel, the psychiatrist concluded that the condition is chronic and consolidated, therefore, no second opinion is required. But according to the wikipedia article, they later got more opinions when they got the conclusion overturned in court. (Including a famous psychiatrist whos assessment also helped overturn the Mollath case)
- SilasX 6y ago>According to the article by Spiegel, the psychiatrist concluded that the condition is chronic and consolidated, therefore, no second opinion is required. Yikes, the fact that such a life-changing diagnosis is not subject to a second set of eyes is disturbing. (The later news is reassuring though.)
- kensai 6y agoI happen to work for the psychiatric services of a rich German state. A second independent opinion is always requested from the judiciary.
- rurban 6y agoOpinion yes, but the second assessment ("Gutachten") will not examine the accused personally, only the paperwork. In all cases psychiatric assessors will trust their colleagues more than written defenses or observations. Only if the first assessment is internally severely flawed it can be overruled. In most cases the first assessment just ignores any contradicting evidence, so the independent assessors had no chance to find out any contradictions or flaws. It simply is not in the papertrail.
- kensai 6y agoThe Gutachten is done directly on the patient if it is so ordered by the judge. It is supposed to be an independent assessment, not even caring what the first assessment was stating. What are you talking about?
- rurban 6y agoIf so then good. My wife is psychiatrical assessor in a lot of such cases as 2nd or 3rd assessor, and she never sees the patient. Only paperwork being send around.