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At least he resigned when he was caught. Francisca Giffey, the Family Minister, never resigned when her doctor thesis was found plagiarized. Also von der Leye

At least he resigned when he was caught. Francisca Giffey, the Family Minister, never resigned when her doctor thesis was found plagiarized. Also von der Leyen, former German Defense Minister and current European Commission leader didn't resign when she was found that she falsified her official CV.

DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
Guttenberg tried to hold onto his position. He at first rejected the accusations, even though they had already been extremely well documented: > Ich bin gerne bereit zu prüfen, ob bei über 1200 Fußnoten und 475 Seiten vereinzelt Fußnoten nicht oder nicht korrekt gesetzt sein sollten und würde dies bei einer Neuauflage berücksichtigen > I am perfectly willing to check whether in any of the over 1200 footnotes and 475 pages individual footnotes were not - or not correctly - inserted, and to correct this in a new edition. Guttenberg kept to this position for a week, while Angela Merkel and most of the government supported him. In the end, though, the extensive plagiarism (93% of the pages have at least one known instance of plagiarism) in his dissertation was so well documented that it was impossible to deny, and his statements about possibly having made a few mistakes here and there also looked more and more like outright lies. Nobody plagiarizes to that extent by mistake.
- C1sc0cat 6y ago
  " or a contract to friend's friend's construction company" Is absolutely corruption. Years ago I did a high level IR/HR course at BT where this sort of low level corruption was one of the most common types of serious misconduct. Of course getting investigated by BT Security is not a happy fun experience.
- zepearl 6y ago
  Yeah, Guttenberg and Von der Leyen are definitely on my "bad people"-list. Guttenberg was even the main candidate to direct some sort of "Internet security/ethics" department (don't remember anymore exactly what it was)? What kind of joke is that? Von der Leyen was involved in the story about spending a lot of $ for external contracting companies & other stuff, then she got "promoted" to the EU-level => another joke, for me.
  - dpoochieni 6y ago
    Damn I knew EU was a corrupt institution but didn't know they were so brazen to openly embrace such an individual as Mrs Leyen

DiogenesKynikos 6y ago

Guttenberg tried to hold onto his position. He at first rejected the accusations, even though they had already been extremely well documented: > Ich bin gerne bereit zu prüfen, ob bei über 1200 Fußnoten und 475 Seiten vereinzelt Fußnoten nicht oder nicht korrekt gesetzt sein sollten und würde dies bei einer Neuauflage berücksichtigen > I am perfectly willing to check whether in any of the over 1200 footnotes and 475 pages individual footnotes were not - or not correctly - inserted, and to correct this in a new edition. Guttenberg kept to this position for a week, while Angela Merkel and most of the government supported him. In the end, though, the extensive plagiarism (93% of the pages have at least one known instance of plagiarism) in his dissertation was so well documented that it was impossible to deny, and his statements about possibly having made a few mistakes here and there also looked more and more like outright lies. Nobody plagiarizes to that extent by mistake.

C1sc0cat 6y ago
" or a contract to friend's friend's construction company" Is absolutely corruption. Years ago I did a high level IR/HR course at BT where this sort of low level corruption was one of the most common types of serious misconduct. Of course getting investigated by BT Security is not a happy fun experience.
zepearl 6y ago
Yeah, Guttenberg and Von der Leyen are definitely on my "bad people"-list. Guttenberg was even the main candidate to direct some sort of "Internet security/ethics" department (don't remember anymore exactly what it was)? What kind of joke is that? Von der Leyen was involved in the story about spending a lot of $ for external contracting companies & other stuff, then she got "promoted" to the EU-level => another joke, for me.
- dpoochieni 6y ago
  Damn I knew EU was a corrupt institution but didn't know they were so brazen to openly embrace such an individual as Mrs Leyen