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Oh yes, I don't think advanced math is required in any way. However, there is a difference in that researchers who have worked with these models for many years
by gas9S9zw3P9c 6y ago
Oh yes, I don't think advanced math is required in any way. However, there is a difference in that researchers who have worked with these models for many years (often including having done some of the math) have a very good intuitive understanding of these models. Once you have that, it's fine to be driven by gut feeling. Just like many engineers are driven by gut feeling that come from tacit knowledge through experience.
What is dangerous is reading a 30 minute blog post and getting the illusion of having some kind of understanding, when in reality it can take years to develop that. It's like cloning the postgres Github repository, compiling it, running a few queries, and then saying you've built databases and being hired to become the "database expert" at some company, spreading wrong knowledge left and right.
That's why the popularization of these quick immediate reward tutorials is dangerous. It takes time and effort to become knowledgable at something. Of course, many people are smart enough to know that these tutorials (or cloning the postgres repo) is just the first step on a longer learning journey, and in that case it's totally fine, but there are also many people who start thinking they are experts ready to work on research or production models after going through such things, not being aware of the many things they don't know [0]
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- shrimpx 6y agoIt sounds like what you’re complaining about is some people who put papers on arxiv and deceivingly claim to be experts. And kind of implying that these blog posts are to blame, so the blog posts should be retracted due to those dishonest academic people? You’re making a very confusing point.
- listenallyall 6y agoNot confusing. He's saying that watching Judge Judy for a week doesn't make you a lawyer. And when hiring, be careful because lots of people who claim to be experts are far from it.
- shrimpx 6y agoThat’s valid, but he’s implying that Judge Judy should be taken off air because some people watch it and then pretend to be lawyers. Squelching information seems like a terrible way to eliminate a few impostors downstream.
- gas9S9zw3P9c 6y agoYes, but that's a bad example because pretending to be a lawyer is hard. A better example would be gurus spreading nutrition recommendations that are not wrong per-se, but extremely simplified. Nutrition is a complex topic and individual differences make it hard to generalize. Let's say the information are so simplified that they are likely to hurt people who blindly follow them without doing further research. So, should this information be taken off air or not? I would say yes, and perhaps you would say no. In either case, I don't think the answer is quite as clear-cut.