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This is probably a better place to continue from our discussion on Twitter... What is the benefit of describing http://jfdibritain.com http://jfdibritain.com a

by jot 16y ago

This is probably a better place to continue from our discussion on Twitter... What is the benefit of describing http://jfdibritain.com http://jfdibritain.com as first "cynical" and then a "negative reaction"? Like Start Up Britain, JFDI Britain is positive about startups in all industries. You can JFDI it with any business. We are a response to Start Up Britain, our only direct reference to them is that we say they "inspired" us to create the site. We think Start Up Britain should continue to do what it's doing and we hope that it evolves to highlight that the only real barrier that exists to starting any kind of business is the time you have available to get on with it. Our only real criticism the prominence and potential damage of the 1:Idea 2: Biz Plan 3:Kit 4:Logo approach. We're suggesting a positive alternative.

swombat 16y ago
That's your opinion (that you can JFDI any business). I think most businesses are not suitable to this approach. More importantly, you set this opinion in opposition, not as a complement - it's clearly presented as an opposing reaction to StartupBritain. So yes, it's a negative reaction, one that fits under the "StartupBritain is not good enough advice" stream of thought.
- ColinHayhurst 16y ago
  I too don't think you can use JFDI, taken literally, for any business. Just as you can't use 1,2,3,4 on StartupBritain for any business. Therefore I don't view JFDIBritain as a negative reaction. Indeed it's a very constructive contribution, being simple and practical. It is extremely useful for some types of start-up businesses: Certainly for many, but not all, of the businesses that I have done, or do, work with.
- jot 16y ago
  Sorry you feel that way. It wasn't our intension to come across like that. How could we have got our message across more positively?
  - swombat 16y ago
    Perhaps providing more context (even if you follow it by declaring that you believe it's for pretty much any kind of business - the reality is there are many business types for which jumping in with no thought is a very bad idea[1]), and not being so aggressive (the very name is an attack, because of the swear word). If you then also included a mention of StartupBritain in a positive way (rather than the veiled "popular belief" reference), it would probably come across as complementary, rather than opposed. Ultimately, you do disagree with StartupBritain's message, which is perfectly fine - I don't see why you feel bad about it. It's ok to disagree and have strong opinions! Just... stand up for them and accept the fact that others will disagree with you too :-) [1] To take an extreme example, an airline. To take a less extreme example, heh, a B2B SaaS startup.

by jot 16y ago

swombat 16y ago

That's your opinion (that you can JFDI any business). I think most businesses are not suitable to this approach. More importantly, you set this opinion in opposition, not as a complement - it's clearly presented as an opposing reaction to StartupBritain. So yes, it's a negative reaction, one that fits under the "StartupBritain is not good enough advice" stream of thought.

ColinHayhurst 16y ago
I too don't think you can use JFDI, taken literally, for any business. Just as you can't use 1,2,3,4 on StartupBritain for any business. Therefore I don't view JFDIBritain as a negative reaction. Indeed it's a very constructive contribution, being simple and practical. It is extremely useful for some types of start-up businesses: Certainly for many, but not all, of the businesses that I have done, or do, work with.
jot 16y ago
Sorry you feel that way. It wasn't our intension to come across like that. How could we have got our message across more positively?
- swombat 16y ago
  Perhaps providing more context (even if you follow it by declaring that you believe it's for pretty much any kind of business - the reality is there are many business types for which jumping in with no thought is a very bad idea[1]), and not being so aggressive (the very name is an attack, because of the swear word). If you then also included a mention of StartupBritain in a positive way (rather than the veiled "popular belief" reference), it would probably come across as complementary, rather than opposed. Ultimately, you do disagree with StartupBritain's message, which is perfectly fine - I don't see why you feel bad about it. It's ok to disagree and have strong opinions! Just... stand up for them and accept the fact that others will disagree with you too :-) [1] To take an extreme example, an airline. To take a less extreme example, heh, a B2B SaaS startup.