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> encouraging web pages to load faster and be easier to read is absolutely something Google should be doing Completely disagree. They should focus their energy

> encouraging web pages to load faster and be easier to read is absolutely something Google should be doing Completely disagree. They should focus their energy on fixing their search engine. And all the bugs in gmail. And the bugs in their advertising engine. And maybe stop tracking everyone. and... > I'll certainly favour a search engine that prioritises fast, easy-to-read pages over one that doesn't. I won't. I'll favour a search engine that gives me pages that have the best information on them. A search engine that helps me to find the hidden nuggets of information that are hiding in the far corners of the Internet, even if they don't appear on a fast, popular site that earns revenue for google through google ads or by harvesting user data via google analytics.

lmm 6y ago
> I'll favour a search engine that gives me pages that have the best information on them. A search engine that helps me to find the hidden nuggets of information that are hiding in the far corners of the Internet, even if they don't appear on a fast, popular site What use is the "best information" if it's on a page that takes forever to load and is so cluttered that you can't actually find the information there? I don't search for the sake of searching, I search because I want to find a particular piece of information, which means the end-to-end process - not just finding the "right" page, but finding and understanding the part that I actually wanted from that page - is what's important. > that earns revenue for google through google ads or by harvesting user data via google analytics. That sounds pretty backwards - IME the fastest, least cluttered sites tend to be those with the fewest ads.
- HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
  Are you serious? Even in really bad examples the info is still there and readable even after closing several popups and muting videos. It should be punished to some extend, but giving you pages irrelevant info is a complete failure.
  - lmm 6y ago
    Completely irrelevant info is a failure, sure. But slightly less detailed info on a significantly better page is probably better than slightly more detailed info on a page that's a pain to deal with. There's a balance to be struck; a fast-loading, uncluttered page is not the be all and end all, but it's not nothing either. (And frankly those tend to be the pages with the best information anyway).

lmm 6y ago

> I'll favour a search engine that gives me pages that have the best information on them. A search engine that helps me to find the hidden nuggets of information that are hiding in the far corners of the Internet, even if they don't appear on a fast, popular site What use is the "best information" if it's on a page that takes forever to load and is so cluttered that you can't actually find the information there? I don't search for the sake of searching, I search because I want to find a particular piece of information, which means the end-to-end process - not just finding the "right" page, but finding and understanding the part that I actually wanted from that page - is what's important. > that earns revenue for google through google ads or by harvesting user data via google analytics. That sounds pretty backwards - IME the fastest, least cluttered sites tend to be those with the fewest ads.

HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
Are you serious? Even in really bad examples the info is still there and readable even after closing several popups and muting videos. It should be punished to some extend, but giving you pages irrelevant info is a complete failure.
- lmm 6y ago
  Completely irrelevant info is a failure, sure. But slightly less detailed info on a significantly better page is probably better than slightly more detailed info on a page that's a pain to deal with. There's a balance to be struck; a fast-loading, uncluttered page is not the be all and end all, but it's not nothing either. (And frankly those tend to be the pages with the best information anyway).