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Lets not forget that they had about 300M people in 1950. It would be 5 times population growth in a century. This is historically unheard of and it is no wonder

Lets not forget that they had about 300M people in 1950. It would be 5 times population growth in a century. This is historically unheard of and it is no wonder that it is causing such problems.

oblio 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England England. Population in 1800: 7.7 million. Population in 1900: 30 million. So not quite 5x, but almost 4x, not that far off. I'm pretty sure there are many other examples of nations undergoing a huge population boom as they industrialize.
- ido 6y ago
  Mandatory Palestine (roughly Israel + Palestinian Territories today) had a population of ~750k in 1920 [0]. The population of Israel today is ~9m [1] and of the Palestinian territories another ~5m [2]. It would have probably still been a massive increase even without the migration of Jews into what is now Israel, as there are ~13m [3] Palestinians world-wide today and most of them live in the middle east (PT, Israel & refugees in neighboring countries). You can see similar albeit less extreme growth in neighboring countries (e.g. Egypt went from ~13m to ~100m in the same period). Like Oblio I would guess this is common for countries who were unindustrialized in 1920 as they have seen massive reduction in child mortality & massive increase in food supplies due to advances in modern medicine & agriculture in the last 100 years. EDIT: I tried to phrase this comment with good intentions as neutrally as possible, but seeing as how this is a sensitive topic please let me know if I got something wrong. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine#Demographics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine#Demographi... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians
- krakatau1 6y ago
  Maybe it was 5x. In that period millions of English went to colonies.
  - oblio 6y ago
    That's a valid point. What many people don't know about the French-Indian War, for example, is that the British colonists numbered in the high hundreds of thousands (if not a million) and the French colonists were about 50.000. That's why Quebec was doomed regardless of any short term military results.
    - krakatau1 6y ago
      Yes, English had crazy fertility rate. At the begining of the Hundred Years’ War France had population of 17 million and Britain(excluding Ireland) had 4 million. By the time of Napoleonic wars Britain(with Ireland) had 17 million people compared with 30 million in France. English also had much higher emigration rate to colonies. When the First World War started UK had a larger population than France.
- eveningcoffee 6y ago
  Thanks for this observation. It explains how they had so much excess man power to run their empire.
- eveningcoffee 6y ago
  I found a very interesting graph related to the population growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union#/media/File:Population_of_former_USSR.PNG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Uni...

Lets not forget that they had about 300M people in 1950. It would be 5 times population growth in a century. This is historically unheard of and it is no wonder that it is causing such problems.

oblio 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England England. Population in 1800: 7.7 million. Population in 1900: 30 million. So not quite 5x, but almost 4x, not that far off. I'm pretty sure there are many other examples of nations undergoing a huge population boom as they industrialize.

ido 6y ago
Mandatory Palestine (roughly Israel + Palestinian Territories today) had a population of ~750k in 1920 [0]. The population of Israel today is ~9m [1] and of the Palestinian territories another ~5m [2]. It would have probably still been a massive increase even without the migration of Jews into what is now Israel, as there are ~13m [3] Palestinians world-wide today and most of them live in the middle east (PT, Israel & refugees in neighboring countries). You can see similar albeit less extreme growth in neighboring countries (e.g. Egypt went from ~13m to ~100m in the same period). Like Oblio I would guess this is common for countries who were unindustrialized in 1920 as they have seen massive reduction in child mortality & massive increase in food supplies due to advances in modern medicine & agriculture in the last 100 years. EDIT: I tried to phrase this comment with good intentions as neutrally as possible, but seeing as how this is a sensitive topic please let me know if I got something wrong. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine#Demographics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine#Demographi... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_territories [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians
krakatau1 6y ago
Maybe it was 5x. In that period millions of English went to colonies.
- oblio 6y ago
  That's a valid point. What many people don't know about the French-Indian War, for example, is that the British colonists numbered in the high hundreds of thousands (if not a million) and the French colonists were about 50.000. That's why Quebec was doomed regardless of any short term military results.
  - krakatau1 6y ago
    Yes, English had crazy fertility rate. At the begining of the Hundred Years’ War France had population of 17 million and Britain(excluding Ireland) had 4 million. By the time of Napoleonic wars Britain(with Ireland) had 17 million people compared with 30 million in France. English also had much higher emigration rate to colonies. When the First World War started UK had a larger population than France.
eveningcoffee 6y ago
Thanks for this observation. It explains how they had so much excess man power to run their empire.
eveningcoffee 6y ago
I found a very interesting graph related to the population growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union#/media/File:Population_of_former_USSR.PNG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Uni...