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>So tyranny of the majority is fine Perhaps it is preferable to tyranny by the minority. >authorization" stemming from? Did we explicitly authorize it? Or was

>So tyranny of the majority is fine Perhaps it is preferable to tyranny by the minority. >authorization" stemming from? Did we explicitly authorize it? Or was it implied by our inaction? Did you authorize the taxes you pay, or where they go? Isn't this the so called social contract? And please, my family fled true tyranny, I assure you nothing the US is doing is quite comperable to the CCP. Westerners don't know tyranny. They've grown so comfortable that they can take to the streets for weeks and complain about the very government that supports them. Try doing that in the USSR or any Chines state outside of Hong Kong or Taiwan.

fzeroracer 6y ago
It's interesting given your posting history that you seem to be more concerned about cancel culture than you are the feds quite literally whisking someone away and violating their rights. I think you're a liar. You're not here to post in good faith. You're just another alt-right troll stirring up shit.
- mtgp1000 6y ago
  >I think you're a liar. You're not here to post in good faith. You're just another alt-right troll stirring up shit. Totally uncalled for. Some people have different points of view. Cancel culture is intimately linked with socialism/communism, though I only recently came to understand this. That social shaming and unpersoning lead to a system where parents could not trust their children, because the government effectively incentivized them to "snitch". The scars of communism in my family are clearly multigenerational, the cultural imprint, of intrinsic distrust for your countryman, is unmistakable. These literal marxists want to bring the same evil here. I cannot stand for that. >whisking someone away and violating their rights I don't think violent sedition is a right in this country. They're not arresting peaceful protestors, they're arresting (allegedly) instigators, the kind who helped cause $500MM in damage in Minneapolis alone. Also I don't think being arrested by unmarked federal agents for federal crimes violates rights. Edit: also it's ironic that you bring up my interest in cancel culture while attacking me personally and accusing me of bad faith argument for disagreeing with you. Perhaps it is appropriate for me to be wary of cancel culture after all?
  - dang 6y ago
    Please stop using HN for ideological battle. We've had to ask you this before, and it's not ok to create multiple accounts to do it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 6y ago
  This is an egregious violation of the site guidelines and a bannable offense on HN. You can't post like this here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You've posted repeated complaints holding that HN is moderated for ideological reasons, and that users flag posts for ideological reasons, but when you pour fuel on flames like this, you're creating the very situation you're complaining about. Any discussion that degenerates to this level will correctly get flagged, because it is not what HN is for, and it destroys what HN is for. The truth is that both sides of ideologues are creating this problem—the other side, yes, and your side, including you yourself. All of you need to accept that (1) this community is large enough that plenty of opposing views are inevitably represented here, and (2) everyone's first responsibility is to protect the container for future discussion. When you bash each other, you're destroying the container. This needs to change, regardless of how important the issues are and how strong your passions are. Our job is prevent this place from burning itself to the ground, and your account is unfortunately standing out as one of the burners. Even apart from the other site guidelines that you routinely break, you are plainly using HN primarily for ideological battle, which is something we ban accounts for, regardless of which ideology they're battling for. Doing that is the only way to preserve any semblance of intellectual curiosity on this site—that is, any semblance of HN's mandate. I've held off chastising you for this way longer than we do for most accounts, but it's obviously time for that to change. No, this is not because we secretly side with the worst of your enemies, alt-right trolls or whoever else—I've banned more of those than you can imagine. At the same time, you also need to follow the rules. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23884888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23884888. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

fzeroracer 6y ago

It's interesting given your posting history that you seem to be more concerned about cancel culture than you are the feds quite literally whisking someone away and violating their rights. I think you're a liar. You're not here to post in good faith. You're just another alt-right troll stirring up shit.

mtgp1000 6y ago
>I think you're a liar. You're not here to post in good faith. You're just another alt-right troll stirring up shit. Totally uncalled for. Some people have different points of view. Cancel culture is intimately linked with socialism/communism, though I only recently came to understand this. That social shaming and unpersoning lead to a system where parents could not trust their children, because the government effectively incentivized them to "snitch". The scars of communism in my family are clearly multigenerational, the cultural imprint, of intrinsic distrust for your countryman, is unmistakable. These literal marxists want to bring the same evil here. I cannot stand for that. >whisking someone away and violating their rights I don't think violent sedition is a right in this country. They're not arresting peaceful protestors, they're arresting (allegedly) instigators, the kind who helped cause $500MM in damage in Minneapolis alone. Also I don't think being arrested by unmarked federal agents for federal crimes violates rights. Edit: also it's ironic that you bring up my interest in cancel culture while attacking me personally and accusing me of bad faith argument for disagreeing with you. Perhaps it is appropriate for me to be wary of cancel culture after all?
- dang 6y ago
  Please stop using HN for ideological battle. We've had to ask you this before, and it's not ok to create multiple accounts to do it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 6y ago
This is an egregious violation of the site guidelines and a bannable offense on HN. You can't post like this here, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You've posted repeated complaints holding that HN is moderated for ideological reasons, and that users flag posts for ideological reasons, but when you pour fuel on flames like this, you're creating the very situation you're complaining about. Any discussion that degenerates to this level will correctly get flagged, because it is not what HN is for, and it destroys what HN is for. The truth is that both sides of ideologues are creating this problem—the other side, yes, and your side, including you yourself. All of you need to accept that (1) this community is large enough that plenty of opposing views are inevitably represented here, and (2) everyone's first responsibility is to protect the container for future discussion. When you bash each other, you're destroying the container. This needs to change, regardless of how important the issues are and how strong your passions are. Our job is prevent this place from burning itself to the ground, and your account is unfortunately standing out as one of the burners. Even apart from the other site guidelines that you routinely break, you are plainly using HN primarily for ideological battle, which is something we ban accounts for, regardless of which ideology they're battling for. Doing that is the only way to preserve any semblance of intellectual curiosity on this site—that is, any semblance of HN's mandate. I've held off chastising you for this way longer than we do for most accounts, but it's obviously time for that to change. No, this is not because we secretly side with the worst of your enemies, alt-right trolls or whoever else—I've banned more of those than you can imagine. At the same time, you also need to follow the rules. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23884888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23884888. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html