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>>most people getting this treatment see themselves as women who are changing their bodies to match their gender, not as men who are changing their gender. I a

by syshum 6y ago

>>most people getting this treatment see themselves as women who are changing their bodies to match their gender, not as men who are changing their gender. I am assuming you have some sort of source showing that this person has the desire to transition? If not I am unclear why this fact matters in the context of this story of what appears to be a doctor forcing medication on a patient against both their and their guardians desire or consent

anamexis 6y ago
Parent is responding to the sentence they quoted at the top of their comment.
geofft 6y ago
The higher-order reason that it's relevant is that there's something of a moral panic going on about medical therapy for transgender youth. While this particular case (assuming that the news story is accurate, of course) seems like an entirely unjustified prescription that's also entirely irrelevant to any medical gender transition, there is absolutely a push to try to get doctors to be unable to prescribe estrogen or testosterone for children under any circumstances, and most of the people pushing this seem to have trouble using standard/well-accepted terms for transgender people. So, it's a reason to take the claim about estrogen's side effects with a grain of salt, in much the same way that you'd be at least slightly skeptical of claims about Linux from someone who insists on spelling it "LINUX" - it's a sign that they might be getting their information, in turn, from an unreliable source.
- TeaDrunk 6y ago
  Do you have a source for encouraging the prescription of children to have hormone replacement therapy? All I’ve seen are puberty blockers myself.
  - geofft 6y ago
    There's a case where an NHS gender clinic at Tavistock Centre is being sued by a former patient who was given both puberty blockers and testosterone at age 16. You can find reports from both mainstream media (like the BBC) and places like LifeSiteNews. To be clear, by "children" I mean minors past the age of puberty, not, like, 5-year-olds.

by syshum 6y ago

anamexis 6y ago

Parent is responding to the sentence they quoted at the top of their comment.

geofft 6y ago

The higher-order reason that it's relevant is that there's something of a moral panic going on about medical therapy for transgender youth. While this particular case (assuming that the news story is accurate, of course) seems like an entirely unjustified prescription that's also entirely irrelevant to any medical gender transition, there is absolutely a push to try to get doctors to be unable to prescribe estrogen or testosterone for children under any circumstances, and most of the people pushing this seem to have trouble using standard/well-accepted terms for transgender people. So, it's a reason to take the claim about estrogen's side effects with a grain of salt, in much the same way that you'd be at least slightly skeptical of claims about Linux from someone who insists on spelling it "LINUX" - it's a sign that they might be getting their information, in turn, from an unreliable source.

TeaDrunk 6y ago
Do you have a source for encouraging the prescription of children to have hormone replacement therapy? All I’ve seen are puberty blockers myself.
- geofft 6y ago
  There's a case where an NHS gender clinic at Tavistock Centre is being sued by a former patient who was given both puberty blockers and testosterone at age 16. You can find reports from both mainstream media (like the BBC) and places like LifeSiteNews. To be clear, by "children" I mean minors past the age of puberty, not, like, 5-year-olds.