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>If Krebs got it wrong, well, he can suffer the consequences of that, too. And, if he got it wrong, the innocent person he doxxed has to suffer the (potentiall

>If Krebs got it wrong, well, he can suffer the consequences of that, too. And, if he got it wrong, the innocent person he doxxed has to suffer the (potentially much more harsh) consequences of someone else's irresponsible actions. While Krebs begins working on his next story, and if we're lucky, posts an "oopsie" comment. How can you justify that as okay?

dcow 6y ago
Do you think Krebs got it wrong? But regardless, harassment is harassment. If the public starts harassing the dude, even if he is guilty, they're just as guilty of their own offenses. Two wrongs don't make a right.
- alacombe 6y ago
  > Do you think Krebs got it wrong? This is irrelevant, how can you have a fair justice system if the mob has already condemned the defender.
  - dcow 6y ago
    I don't want a mob to condemn anyone. A mob should not be condemning anyone, ever. Why is the baseline assumption that a public accusation must be followed by swift and undue internet mob justice? That's what's fucked up if you ask me.
- celticninja 6y ago
  He has in the past, and his response has been to delete the tweets but not offer an apology, or retraction. So when those tweets are re-posted, and/or screenshotted, there is no way to tell that the information is incorrect.
user5994461 6y ago
If you believe the story, the people who are pointed to were already being looked for for arrest. Don't buy the poor innocent narrative too quickly. It just happens that their last actions affected powerful figures and the US government so they might actually be some real international effort to arrest them now.
- ziddoap 6y ago
  What I stated is not exclusive to this story. People's home addresses and names should not be released to the public until a legal conviction has been ascertained. This has nothing to do with "innocent narrative". It has everything to do with due process, which is a foundation many countries entire law systems are founded upon. The legal process is innocent until proven guilty. You seem to be advocating for guilty until proven innocent, with a side of public vigilante justice as the punishment. If doxxing innocent (reminder: you are innocent until /proven/ guilty) people is the norm... And allowing vigilante justice is okay... We are in a very dangerous place. You don't have to look far for numerous cases of innocent people having their lives ruined, or sometimes literally snuffed out, due to situations exactly like this.
  - dcow 6y ago
    Doxxing is not a crime, that's my point. And I am in no way interested in making it one. Innocent people should remain innocent until proven guilty and the rest of our god-forsaken species should figure out how to grow up and treat people with compassion and respect. If what Krebs is doing in this case impacts the dude in any tangible and negative way he should sue Krebs for liable. That would be interesting.

dcow 6y ago

Do you think Krebs got it wrong? But regardless, harassment is harassment. If the public starts harassing the dude, even if he is guilty, they're just as guilty of their own offenses. Two wrongs don't make a right.

alacombe 6y ago
> Do you think Krebs got it wrong? This is irrelevant, how can you have a fair justice system if the mob has already condemned the defender.
- dcow 6y ago
  I don't want a mob to condemn anyone. A mob should not be condemning anyone, ever. Why is the baseline assumption that a public accusation must be followed by swift and undue internet mob justice? That's what's fucked up if you ask me.
celticninja 6y ago
He has in the past, and his response has been to delete the tweets but not offer an apology, or retraction. So when those tweets are re-posted, and/or screenshotted, there is no way to tell that the information is incorrect.

user5994461 6y ago

If you believe the story, the people who are pointed to were already being looked for for arrest. Don't buy the poor innocent narrative too quickly. It just happens that their last actions affected powerful figures and the US government so they might actually be some real international effort to arrest them now.

ziddoap 6y ago
What I stated is not exclusive to this story. People's home addresses and names should not be released to the public until a legal conviction has been ascertained. This has nothing to do with "innocent narrative". It has everything to do with due process, which is a foundation many countries entire law systems are founded upon. The legal process is innocent until proven guilty. You seem to be advocating for guilty until proven innocent, with a side of public vigilante justice as the punishment. If doxxing innocent (reminder: you are innocent until /proven/ guilty) people is the norm... And allowing vigilante justice is okay... We are in a very dangerous place. You don't have to look far for numerous cases of innocent people having their lives ruined, or sometimes literally snuffed out, due to situations exactly like this.
- dcow 6y ago
  Doxxing is not a crime, that's my point. And I am in no way interested in making it one. Innocent people should remain innocent until proven guilty and the rest of our god-forsaken species should figure out how to grow up and treat people with compassion and respect. If what Krebs is doing in this case impacts the dude in any tangible and negative way he should sue Krebs for liable. That would be interesting.