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It's doxxing. My question is why is that a bad thing in this case? Zero tolerance policies don't make any sense to me.

ziddoap 6y ago
Because... Because it's not confirmed?
wolco 6y ago
Because the person he is doxxing isn't behind this. Unnamed telco source is not credible or is a rectangle swimming pools being used as a fingerprint.
- malwarebytess 6y ago
  > Because the person he is doxxing isn't behind this. Don't think you can say that with certainty. It looks like a fairly solid series of deductions.
the_svd_doctor 6y ago
Maybe because the person he is pointing to may herself become a target of attacks/harassment other. If he (or she) is really the perpetrator, he should ideally be arrested and convicted. But it may also not be him. I'm not sure I understand your comment actually.
pixelbash 6y ago
Because doxxing as a strategy has a nasty habit of ruining the lives of people that turn out to be innocent. Skipping legal process and all that.
zymhan 6y ago
Do you also support vigilante justice?
scubbo 6y ago
On the off-chance that you're serious - doxxing someone who is suspected to be linked to a crime is staggeringly irresponsible, because you are then effectively convicting them in the court of public opinion. If they are innocent, but you have not only levelled accusations at them, but provided ways to access them, then you are partially responsible for what others choose to do with that information.
- nuclearnice1 6y ago
  Isn’t most crime journalism the same? Three examples from the front page of the NY post right now. I am having a hard time figuring out how to distinguish this and the OP doxxing. The organizationS fact-checking process? Solidness of the evidence? > Allegations were made against longtime radio broadcaster Larry Michael (retired Wednesday), director of pro personnel Alex Santos (fired last week), assistant director of pro personnel Richard Mann II (fired last week), former COO Mitch Gershman (left in 2015) and former president of business operations Dennis Greene (left in 2018). > Chanice Reyes, 24, was busted around 5 a.m. Thursday, sources said, when cops investigated a strong smell of marijuana coming from a car near City Hall, where anti-police activists have been gathering in recent weeks. > Tory Lanez, whose real name is Daystar Peterson, was the person who allegedly shot Megan Thee Stallion following a dispute inside his vehicle Sunday morning, Page Six has learned.
  - ziddoap 6y ago
    There isn't a difference. Newspapers seem to dox people with impunity. It doesn't make it right, nor desirable, nor an excuse for others to follow suit. The number of lives ruined by false allegations that have been amplified through press/journalists is disgusting.
  - jacquesm 6y ago
    It is in the United States. In other countries until conviction only initials are used. This to avoid ruining people's lives (or even endangering them) in case an allegation turns out not to be true.
    - 6y ago
AnotherGoodName 6y ago
Because it leads to harassment and harm. Which gets particularly bad when it's likely a false accusation at this point. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunil_Tripathi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunil_Tripathi for an example that should make your blood boil
newhotelowner 6y ago
> In this case? After the Boston marathon bombing, Redditors thought they found one of the responsible terrorist. He wasn't.

Because... Because it's not confirmed?

Because the person he is doxxing isn't behind this. Unnamed telco source is not credible or is a rectangle swimming pools being used as a fingerprint.

malwarebytess 6y ago
> Because the person he is doxxing isn't behind this. Don't think you can say that with certainty. It looks like a fairly solid series of deductions.

the_svd_doctor 6y ago

Maybe because the person he is pointing to may herself become a target of attacks/harassment other. If he (or she) is really the perpetrator, he should ideally be arrested and convicted. But it may also not be him. I'm not sure I understand your comment actually.

pixelbash 6y ago

Because doxxing as a strategy has a nasty habit of ruining the lives of people that turn out to be innocent. Skipping legal process and all that.

zymhan 6y ago

Do you also support vigilante justice?

scubbo 6y ago

On the off-chance that you're serious - doxxing someone who is suspected to be linked to a crime is staggeringly irresponsible, because you are then effectively convicting them in the court of public opinion. If they are innocent, but you have not only levelled accusations at them, but provided ways to access them, then you are partially responsible for what others choose to do with that information.

nuclearnice1 6y ago
Isn’t most crime journalism the same? Three examples from the front page of the NY post right now. I am having a hard time figuring out how to distinguish this and the OP doxxing. The organizationS fact-checking process? Solidness of the evidence? > Allegations were made against longtime radio broadcaster Larry Michael (retired Wednesday), director of pro personnel Alex Santos (fired last week), assistant director of pro personnel Richard Mann II (fired last week), former COO Mitch Gershman (left in 2015) and former president of business operations Dennis Greene (left in 2018). > Chanice Reyes, 24, was busted around 5 a.m. Thursday, sources said, when cops investigated a strong smell of marijuana coming from a car near City Hall, where anti-police activists have been gathering in recent weeks. > Tory Lanez, whose real name is Daystar Peterson, was the person who allegedly shot Megan Thee Stallion following a dispute inside his vehicle Sunday morning, Page Six has learned.
- ziddoap 6y ago
  There isn't a difference. Newspapers seem to dox people with impunity. It doesn't make it right, nor desirable, nor an excuse for others to follow suit. The number of lives ruined by false allegations that have been amplified through press/journalists is disgusting.
- jacquesm 6y ago
  It is in the United States. In other countries until conviction only initials are used. This to avoid ruining people's lives (or even endangering them) in case an allegation turns out not to be true.
  - 6y ago

AnotherGoodName 6y ago

Because it leads to harassment and harm. Which gets particularly bad when it's likely a false accusation at this point. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunil_Tripathi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunil_Tripathi for an example that should make your blood boil

newhotelowner 6y ago

> In this case? After the Boston marathon bombing, Redditors thought they found one of the responsible terrorist. He wasn't.