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More men generally die annually from breast cancer[1] than testicular cancer[2]. The reason men's rights movements are mocked is because of comments like this

by slg 6y ago

More men generally die annually from breast cancer[1] than testicular cancer[2]. The reason men's rights movements are mocked is because of comments like this that equate any possible problem men have as been on equal footing with all the problems that women have. [1] - https://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/breast-cancer/statistics https://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/breast-cancer/statistics [2] - https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/testicular-cancer/testicular-cancer-statistics https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...

worik 6y ago
Also the men's rights activists are a mean and bitter group, generally. I got interested in the "men's rights movement" in the early nineties when I could really have done with the support. But all they could do was hate It is like comparing the "black power" movement - which generally is about how it is good to be black and the "white power" movement which is generally about how it is bad to be, erm, not white! I guess from a position of power and privilege it is hard to identify shortcomings and needs in your own community
themgt 6y ago
Testicular cancer is a bad example, but it looks like from some quick googling in USA ~42k women die each year from breast cancer while ~33k men die from prostate cancer. Overall "cancer mortality is higher among men than women (196.8 per 100,000 men and 139.6 per 100,000 women)"[1] Significantly higher. Men on average live 5 less years than women. Cancer research funding relative to annual deaths[2] shows breast cancer far "overfunded" relative to everything else. Government breast cancer research funding looks generally double prostate cancer research funding[3] You can debate the above points or how exactly funding should be allocated, but if your response is to justify mocking any concerns, perhaps you are not really assessing the evidence in good faith. [1] https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics. [2] https://cdn2.poz.com/75944_Northwestern-cancer-funding-deaths-rect1500.jpg_90c9a8a7-5154-4145-a105-d3c10d6d3faf.jpeg https://cdn2.poz.com/75944_Northwestern-cancer-funding-death.... [3] https://katatrepsis.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/us-funding.jpg https://katatrepsis.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/us-funding.j...
- slg 6y ago
  I am well aware of prostate cancer being a bigger threat to men than testicular cancer, but the comment mentioned one and not the other. It is not my responsibility to improve the arguments of men's rights activists. Plus I felt that "men's right activists are biased" was a more productive retort than "men's right activists are both biased and ignorant".
  - read_if_gay_ 6y ago
    > It is not my responsibility to improve the arguments of men's rights activists. It is your responsibility, unless you’re not arguing to find the truth and just want to feel like you’re right.

by slg 6y ago

worik 6y ago

Also the men's rights activists are a mean and bitter group, generally. I got interested in the "men's rights movement" in the early nineties when I could really have done with the support. But all they could do was hate It is like comparing the "black power" movement - which generally is about how it is good to be black and the "white power" movement which is generally about how it is bad to be, erm, not white! I guess from a position of power and privilege it is hard to identify shortcomings and needs in your own community

themgt 6y ago

Testicular cancer is a bad example, but it looks like from some quick googling in USA ~42k women die each year from breast cancer while ~33k men die from prostate cancer. Overall "cancer mortality is higher among men than women (196.8 per 100,000 men and 139.6 per 100,000 women)"[1] Significantly higher. Men on average live 5 less years than women. Cancer research funding relative to annual deaths[2] shows breast cancer far "overfunded" relative to everything else. Government breast cancer research funding looks generally double prostate cancer research funding[3] You can debate the above points or how exactly funding should be allocated, but if your response is to justify mocking any concerns, perhaps you are not really assessing the evidence in good faith. [1] https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics. [2] https://cdn2.poz.com/75944_Northwestern-cancer-funding-deaths-rect1500.jpg_90c9a8a7-5154-4145-a105-d3c10d6d3faf.jpeg https://cdn2.poz.com/75944_Northwestern-cancer-funding-death.... [3] https://katatrepsis.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/us-funding.jpg https://katatrepsis.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/us-funding.j...

slg 6y ago
I am well aware of prostate cancer being a bigger threat to men than testicular cancer, but the comment mentioned one and not the other. It is not my responsibility to improve the arguments of men's rights activists. Plus I felt that "men's right activists are biased" was a more productive retort than "men's right activists are both biased and ignorant".
- read_if_gay_ 6y ago
  > It is not my responsibility to improve the arguments of men's rights activists. It is your responsibility, unless you’re not arguing to find the truth and just want to feel like you’re right.