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They even give you a note if the train is late: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_certificate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_certificate

simias 6y ago
We have that in France as well, I assumed it was common everywhere. Otherwise how do you justify yourself to your employer/school/whatever if you're late because your commute took one hour more than usual because of something completely out of your control?
- reidjs 6y ago
  Does someone actually care enough to check the slip? The few times I've been late due to things like this (flat bike tire, crazy traffic, train delay, whatever) my boss was just like ...ok try not to let it happen again and possibly documented it somewhere. I have been salaried for the most part, maybe if you're hourly you might get docked the time. When I have had someone under me and they're late once in a while I don't really care. (USA)
  - frostburg 6y ago
    In schools with minors there may be liability reasons. I used to have a somewhat unreliable commute, so my school was exempted from being legally responsible for my wellbeing for a few minutes after what would have been normal.
- 1-more 6y ago
  When I worked in midtown Manhattan, NYC I could show up basically whenever as a salaried engineer, but the administrative staff of our office were paid hourly and scheduled to show up at a certain time. They also all lived further out with more transfers so more chances of delay on the subway. The answer from their boss was "plan that into your commute" even though the variance could be 40 minutes for a real delay. Perverse!
mc32 6y ago
Sure but only because companies are such sticklers about not taking a minute of their time from your work (which is also evidenced by people staying late, often doing pretend work way after hours because the boss is chatting away and hasn’t left the office. It looks nice but the reasons for its existence isn’t nice.
ekianjo 6y ago
That's because your employer is usually an ass who needs you to come sharply on time (Flex work is still an alien concept in most Japanese companies) so you need an actual note to justify it was not your lazy ass' fault.

simias 6y ago

We have that in France as well, I assumed it was common everywhere. Otherwise how do you justify yourself to your employer/school/whatever if you're late because your commute took one hour more than usual because of something completely out of your control?

reidjs 6y ago
Does someone actually care enough to check the slip? The few times I've been late due to things like this (flat bike tire, crazy traffic, train delay, whatever) my boss was just like ...ok try not to let it happen again and possibly documented it somewhere. I have been salaried for the most part, maybe if you're hourly you might get docked the time. When I have had someone under me and they're late once in a while I don't really care. (USA)
- frostburg 6y ago
  In schools with minors there may be liability reasons. I used to have a somewhat unreliable commute, so my school was exempted from being legally responsible for my wellbeing for a few minutes after what would have been normal.
1-more 6y ago
When I worked in midtown Manhattan, NYC I could show up basically whenever as a salaried engineer, but the administrative staff of our office were paid hourly and scheduled to show up at a certain time. They also all lived further out with more transfers so more chances of delay on the subway. The answer from their boss was "plan that into your commute" even though the variance could be 40 minutes for a real delay. Perverse!

mc32 6y ago

Sure but only because companies are such sticklers about not taking a minute of their time from your work (which is also evidenced by people staying late, often doing pretend work way after hours because the boss is chatting away and hasn’t left the office. It looks nice but the reasons for its existence isn’t nice.

ekianjo 6y ago

That's because your employer is usually an ass who needs you to come sharply on time (Flex work is still an alien concept in most Japanese companies) so you need an actual note to justify it was not your lazy ass' fault.