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Employing your line of thought - noone should condemn anything unless they condemn everything antithetical to their principals/views. Furthermore, Kerr is an e

Employing your line of thought - noone should condemn anything unless they condemn everything antithetical to their principals/views. Furthermore, Kerr is an employee and whatever statement he makes on HK would be inconsequential but also extremely harmful to his employer and co-workers. If actual change is wanted then we should divert our attention to the government where the real change happen.

DevKoala 6y ago
> Employing your line of thought - noone should condemn anything unless they condemn everything antithetical to their principals/views. Yes, it is called hypocrisy. The individual in question has a powerful speech platform due to his role. Such power should be used responsibly. Moreover, why aren’t statements against the USA government harmful to businesses? Because we have free speech. We should protect it, and denounce the actors in the world trying to censor us.
- justinzollars 6y ago
  Steering this back to Google's decision to pull out of China after exploits - the Tech Industry has expressed views that have cost it significant amounts of revenue. We've fought back unlike other industries.
  - DevKoala 6y ago
    True, the individuals that stopped dragonfly are commendable. However, that was not all of Google.
    - price 6y ago
      The parent is referring to when Google pulled out of China in 2010, after having actually operated a google.cn for several years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora
      - DevKoala 6y ago
        That was in 2010. Then in 2018 Google was caught building dragonfly which was a CCP requirement compatible version of their search engine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine) Google is a big organization. There is clearly tons of employees there protecting free speech, but there are also other people who are okay just taking the cash. It’s hard to treat Google as an entity only on one side of the fence.
  - sidibe 6y ago
    It's funny to see Google/Facebook get slagged over China. Anyone who truly cared about companies doing business in China should try to discriminate between companies that are actually doing what they are arguing for and the ones that aren't, but often I think it's just another hammer to bash the companies they don't like.
    - justinzollars 6y ago
      What do you mean by that?

DevKoala 6y ago

> Employing your line of thought - noone should condemn anything unless they condemn everything antithetical to their principals/views. Yes, it is called hypocrisy. The individual in question has a powerful speech platform due to his role. Such power should be used responsibly. Moreover, why aren’t statements against the USA government harmful to businesses? Because we have free speech. We should protect it, and denounce the actors in the world trying to censor us.

justinzollars 6y ago
Steering this back to Google's decision to pull out of China after exploits - the Tech Industry has expressed views that have cost it significant amounts of revenue. We've fought back unlike other industries.
- DevKoala 6y ago
  True, the individuals that stopped dragonfly are commendable. However, that was not all of Google.
  - price 6y ago
    The parent is referring to when Google pulled out of China in 2010, after having actually operated a google.cn for several years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora
    - DevKoala 6y ago
      That was in 2010. Then in 2018 Google was caught building dragonfly which was a CCP requirement compatible version of their search engine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine) Google is a big organization. There is clearly tons of employees there protecting free speech, but there are also other people who are okay just taking the cash. It’s hard to treat Google as an entity only on one side of the fence.
- sidibe 6y ago
  It's funny to see Google/Facebook get slagged over China. Anyone who truly cared about companies doing business in China should try to discriminate between companies that are actually doing what they are arguing for and the ones that aren't, but often I think it's just another hammer to bash the companies they don't like.
  - justinzollars 6y ago
    What do you mean by that?