By the way, I'm not trying to put the idea down. I think police abolition is an interesting proposal and a lot of work and thought has been put into it. It eras

By the way, I'm not trying to put the idea down. I think police abolition is an interesting proposal and a lot of work and thought has been put into it. It erases those thinkers when we say "they don't really mean it" and bundle them in with much weaker proposals. They do really mean it, and the debate is important.