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No explanation necessary. It's the same old racism, but with a new 2020 twist: it's ok as long as it's racism against people we don't like. Check out the recen

No explanation necessary. It's the same old racism, but with a new 2020 twist: it's ok as long as it's racism against people we don't like. Check out the recent spate of black athletes and celebrities posting openly anti-Semitic comments on social media (one directly (mis)quoting Hitler re: Jews) with zero repercussions. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2020/07/08/stephen-jackson-defends-desean-jacksons-fake-adolf-hitler-quote-posts/5399430002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2020/07/08/stephen... https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/jewish-leaders-condemn-hurtful-words-nick-cannon-71810371 https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/jewish-leader... https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/9400472/ice-cube-criticized-anti-semitic-images-conspiracy-theories https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/9400472/i... A really thoughtful piece about this by Kareem Abdul Jabbar here too: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kareem-abdul-jabbar-is-outrage-anti-semitism-sports-hollywood-1303210 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kareem-abdul-jabbar-i...

whymauri 6y ago
Zero repercussions? Nick Cannon lost his job and board position, and rightfully so [0]. Do not misconstrue the consequences - people will be fired or blacklisted for these anti-Semitic comments, and that's frankly a good thing. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/entertainment/nick-cannon-viacom-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/entertainment/nick-cannon-via...
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  You're right that Nick Cannon is the exception. (edit: actually, you're wrong: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon-to-keep-the-masked-singer-gig-on-fox-a/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon...) How about Ice Cube, Stephen Jackson, DeSean Jackson, Dwyane Wade, etc. and all those who supported the comments or brushed them off as "speaking their truth" or some other nonsense? They will face no consequences, because, again, racism is deemed okay in the current climate as long as it's aimed correctly. Can you even _imagine_ the absolute chaos that would rein if a white NBA player started quoting David Duke to millions of followers, and a bunch of white NBA players and commentators supported them?
  - amznthrwaway 6y ago
    The fucking US President quotes white supremacists regularly. Shut the fuck up, you vile, dishonest, race war loving piece of shit.
  - baddox 6y ago
    > They will face no consequences... > Can you even _imagine_ the absolute chaos that would rein if... I think everyone has their own media diet, influenced partly by their own choices and partly by algorithms. Your media diet likely has a huge effect on whose reactions you see and thus which reactions you perceive to be "brushing something off" or "absolute chaos."
    - ciarannolan 6y ago
      True - I need to keep in mind that Twitter isn't "everyone". But at the same time, these are well known public figures broadcasting openly racist and anti-Semitic thoughts to millions of people. I'm not completely sure what to make of it.
      - baddox 6y ago
        Even within Twitter there will be a vast difference. If a liberal quotes a conservative tweet in disapproval you will see replies from liberals also expressing disapproval. But if another conservative quotes the same tweet in approval, you’ll see a bunch of conservatives replying in approval. It would be incorrect to conclude either “everyone realized that tweet was terrible” and “everyone agreed with that tweet.”
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  It’s amusing that Cannon got fired for anti-semitism, which he wasn’t actually guilty of, and not racism for saying white people are less, and are closer to animals.
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    His full quote for people to judge for themselves: >“When you have a person that has the lack of pigment, the lack of melanin, they know that they will be annihilated,” Mr. Cannon said during the June podcast. “So therefore, however they got the power, they have the lack of compassion — melanin comes with compassion, melanin comes with soul. We call it soul — we’re soul brothers and sisters — that’s the melanin that connects us, so the people that don’t have [melanin] are a little, and I’m going to say this carefully, are a little less.” >“They’re acting out of fear, they’re acting out of low self-esteem, they’re acting out of a deficiency,” he continued. “So therefore, the only way that they can act is evil. They have to rob, steal, rape, kill in order to survive. So then, these people who didn’t have what we have — and when I say we, I speak of the melanated people — they had to be savages. They had to be barbaric because they’re in these Nordic mountains. They’re in these rough environments. They’re acting as animals, so they’re the ones that are actually closer to animals. They’re the ones that are actually the true savages.”
    - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
      Thanks. Yes, again, he did NOT get fired for this. But he started talking about conspiracy theories relating to the illuminati and the Rothschilds (who, yes, happen to be jewish) and how they have all the power. Nothing derogatory or about jewish people in general that I saw. Every single headline on my news page says he was anti-semetic and completely ignored the blatant racism. What fun times we are in.
octernion 6y ago
yeah definitely there were zero repercussions and nick cannon definitely didn't lose his job. ??? what are you talking about.
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  Ice Cube, Stephen Jackson, DeSean Jackson, Dwyane Wade, etc. If you want to do this accounting, I'm really here for you. Also, he didn't lose his job here: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon-to-keep-the-masked-singer-gig-on-fox-a/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon...
  - octernion 6y ago
    i have no idea what you are talking about. folks are being held accountable, you said they weren't. are you saying that it's not happening fast enough for your liking? you were straight up wrong.
    - ciarannolan 6y ago
      No, I was straight up right. Look at my edit: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon-to-keep-the-masked-singer-gig-on-fox-a/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon...
amznthrwaway 6y ago
@dang: could you please borrow some fucking decency and stop whiny white supremacists from shitting all over this site? The above is absolute horseshit which was posted here because the poster knew, with certainty, that they'd face no consequences for posting straight up false information meant to inflame race war. Flip the script. Ban the lying race-war loving white supremacists.

whymauri 6y ago

Zero repercussions? Nick Cannon lost his job and board position, and rightfully so [0]. Do not misconstrue the consequences - people will be fired or blacklisted for these anti-Semitic comments, and that's frankly a good thing. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/entertainment/nick-cannon-viacom-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/entertainment/nick-cannon-via...

ciarannolan 6y ago
You're right that Nick Cannon is the exception. (edit: actually, you're wrong: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon-to-keep-the-masked-singer-gig-on-fox-a/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon...) How about Ice Cube, Stephen Jackson, DeSean Jackson, Dwyane Wade, etc. and all those who supported the comments or brushed them off as "speaking their truth" or some other nonsense? They will face no consequences, because, again, racism is deemed okay in the current climate as long as it's aimed correctly. Can you even _imagine_ the absolute chaos that would rein if a white NBA player started quoting David Duke to millions of followers, and a bunch of white NBA players and commentators supported them?
- amznthrwaway 6y ago
  The fucking US President quotes white supremacists regularly. Shut the fuck up, you vile, dishonest, race war loving piece of shit.
- baddox 6y ago
  > They will face no consequences... > Can you even _imagine_ the absolute chaos that would rein if... I think everyone has their own media diet, influenced partly by their own choices and partly by algorithms. Your media diet likely has a huge effect on whose reactions you see and thus which reactions you perceive to be "brushing something off" or "absolute chaos."
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    True - I need to keep in mind that Twitter isn't "everyone". But at the same time, these are well known public figures broadcasting openly racist and anti-Semitic thoughts to millions of people. I'm not completely sure what to make of it.
    - baddox 6y ago
      Even within Twitter there will be a vast difference. If a liberal quotes a conservative tweet in disapproval you will see replies from liberals also expressing disapproval. But if another conservative quotes the same tweet in approval, you’ll see a bunch of conservatives replying in approval. It would be incorrect to conclude either “everyone realized that tweet was terrible” and “everyone agreed with that tweet.”
lawnchair_larry 6y ago
It’s amusing that Cannon got fired for anti-semitism, which he wasn’t actually guilty of, and not racism for saying white people are less, and are closer to animals.
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  His full quote for people to judge for themselves: >“When you have a person that has the lack of pigment, the lack of melanin, they know that they will be annihilated,” Mr. Cannon said during the June podcast. “So therefore, however they got the power, they have the lack of compassion — melanin comes with compassion, melanin comes with soul. We call it soul — we’re soul brothers and sisters — that’s the melanin that connects us, so the people that don’t have [melanin] are a little, and I’m going to say this carefully, are a little less.” >“They’re acting out of fear, they’re acting out of low self-esteem, they’re acting out of a deficiency,” he continued. “So therefore, the only way that they can act is evil. They have to rob, steal, rape, kill in order to survive. So then, these people who didn’t have what we have — and when I say we, I speak of the melanated people — they had to be savages. They had to be barbaric because they’re in these Nordic mountains. They’re in these rough environments. They’re acting as animals, so they’re the ones that are actually closer to animals. They’re the ones that are actually the true savages.”
  - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
    Thanks. Yes, again, he did NOT get fired for this. But he started talking about conspiracy theories relating to the illuminati and the Rothschilds (who, yes, happen to be jewish) and how they have all the power. Nothing derogatory or about jewish people in general that I saw. Every single headline on my news page says he was anti-semetic and completely ignored the blatant racism. What fun times we are in.

octernion 6y ago

yeah definitely there were zero repercussions and nick cannon definitely didn't lose his job. ??? what are you talking about.

ciarannolan 6y ago
Ice Cube, Stephen Jackson, DeSean Jackson, Dwyane Wade, etc. If you want to do this accounting, I'm really here for you. Also, he didn't lose his job here: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon-to-keep-the-masked-singer-gig-on-fox-a/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon...
- octernion 6y ago
  i have no idea what you are talking about. folks are being held accountable, you said they weren't. are you saying that it's not happening fast enough for your liking? you were straight up wrong.
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    No, I was straight up right. Look at my edit: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon-to-keep-the-masked-singer-gig-on-fox-a/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/16/nick-cannon...

amznthrwaway 6y ago

@dang: could you please borrow some fucking decency and stop whiny white supremacists from shitting all over this site? The above is absolute horseshit which was posted here because the poster knew, with certainty, that they'd face no consequences for posting straight up false information meant to inflame race war. Flip the script. Ban the lying race-war loving white supremacists.