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The Democratic party made the correct bet that they could use their media apparatus to discredit progressive candidates, get away with cheating in Iowa, and use

The Democratic party made the correct bet that they could use their media apparatus to discredit progressive candidates, get away with cheating in Iowa, and use Obama to get the other moderates to concede with promises of internal advancement. It was corrupt and repugnant, but a strategically sound approach to make sure they're headed on the ticket by a center right leader (which their donor base demands).

Answerawake 6y ago
As someone who volunteered for multiple campaigns this cycle, I saw this clearly. But I also see most people that I have met on my travels just seem to be checked out, even if they vote. I think this is the bigger problem. The previous cycles have already just turned people off from thinking they can do massive change. Even with a record number of volunteers and supporters with a campaign like Bernie, it still wasn't enough numbers. I often wonder how painful things will have to get to enact some change with the checked out masses. What will happen if we reach that point?
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
  >What will happen if we reach that point? More riots, looting, autonomous zones, and probably hostile us army deployments stateside.
babycake 6y ago
Don't forget that the Democratic party has something called Super Delegates, which basically blocks any candidate they don't agree with, even if the candidate won the popular vote. If Trump ran as Democrat, he wouldn't be president today due to this. Also, we shouldn't forget that Michael Bloomberg decided to run last-minute as a Democrat, with the Democrat party changing the applicant rules so that he could specifically run. The whole political apparatus is entirely corrupt. I'm not sure voting helps at this point. We have a massive amount of people who are on the last of their savings, with no unemployment benefit coming their way to help out. This may be the beginning of a revolution, if people are angry enough, maybe.

Answerawake 6y ago

As someone who volunteered for multiple campaigns this cycle, I saw this clearly. But I also see most people that I have met on my travels just seem to be checked out, even if they vote. I think this is the bigger problem. The previous cycles have already just turned people off from thinking they can do massive change. Even with a record number of volunteers and supporters with a campaign like Bernie, it still wasn't enough numbers. I often wonder how painful things will have to get to enact some change with the checked out masses. What will happen if we reach that point?

Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
>What will happen if we reach that point? More riots, looting, autonomous zones, and probably hostile us army deployments stateside.

babycake 6y ago

Don't forget that the Democratic party has something called Super Delegates, which basically blocks any candidate they don't agree with, even if the candidate won the popular vote. If Trump ran as Democrat, he wouldn't be president today due to this. Also, we shouldn't forget that Michael Bloomberg decided to run last-minute as a Democrat, with the Democrat party changing the applicant rules so that he could specifically run. The whole political apparatus is entirely corrupt. I'm not sure voting helps at this point. We have a massive amount of people who are on the last of their savings, with no unemployment benefit coming their way to help out. This may be the beginning of a revolution, if people are angry enough, maybe.